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Old May 18, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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I have an edelbrock performer intake with a one inch adapter plate and a carter 9605s carburetor on a 305 non HO z28 motor. With a stock 83 steel hood. I just bought a k & n 1 1/4 drop base and modified it to miss the hei distributor. I have no plugs nor no filter yet.. Just wondering if i am going to have to invest in a new hood or just buy a new square bore intake. Will it fit?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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The one inch adapter plate seems a bet thick... 14 x 2 inch air filters are also available, though not common in auto parts stores. Try Ebay. Either one or both of these is much cheaper than a new hood.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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i did the 1 inch because i wanted to take advantage of the dual plenum on the intake but wouldn't the 2 inch with the 1 1/4 drop base restrict alot of the air flow?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Not on a non-HO 305.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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alright. so with that said. will it fit? with no air restrictions?
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Old May 19, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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We're talking about a stock intake manifold, right? A Performer (or the GMPP spreadbore intake that I have) mount the carb about half an inch higher than the stock manifold. I didn't have any problem clearing the hood with the GMPP intake and a 3"x14" 1-1/4" drop base air cleaner. A stock manifold with a 1" spacer and 2"x14" 1-1/4" drop base air cleaner would have half an inch more clearance than I had.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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no i am talking about a edelbrock performer 2101 spread bore intake manifold with a carter square bore 9605s carburetor with a 1 inch adapter plate.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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Why the adapter plate?
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Old May 20, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Re: Straight Answer

because i got the edelbrock performer 2101 intake manifold for free and it needs a adapter plate so i could use the carter 9605s carburetor that is a square bore carburetor.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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i have a 4160 holley (square bore) a 2101 spread bore performer intake,

i have an 1/8 inch plate under it to allow linkage clearance on the thermal choke block off on passenger side, a 1/2 air cleaner spacer on top of the carb, not sure why i still have it, i needed it for an edelbrock carb i used for a while to get throttle linkage clearance, not familiar with the carter you speak of

im currently using a 3x14 inch filter in the edelbrock drop base.. under a plain stock un modified firebird hood

i have an stp part# for a 3X14 filter and a purolator part# for on that is approx, 2 5/8 x 14 inch

if you want or need those number holler, they are in my tool box which is not at my side currently
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Old May 20, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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The 2101 has both square bore and spread bore bolt patterns. You don't need an adapter to bolt a square bore carb on it.

So, why the adapter?
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Old May 20, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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no ****.. i went to get the tv cable bracket and told the auto parts store what i was going to bolt to it and they said that i needed the adapter plate.. but you sure that i don't need it.. cuz that would be a swiff kick in the wallet. that darn adapter wasn't too cheap but i would love to use that money towards a k&n filter
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Old May 20, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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Re: Straight Answer

If you have a squarebore intake, you don't need the plate. If you have a spreadbore intake, you need the adapter, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have to be nearly that thick.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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alright... so now with me not needing the adapter plate because the 2101 is both square and spread bore. i do have the hei but how far of a drop base will i need before i start hitting the msd hei distributor... or how far of a drop base does everyone else have.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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I have a 5/8" drop, that's the most I can have while leaving enough clearance for the electric choke. Even with that drop, I had to rotate the distributor cap so the filter didn't hit it on the BAT/TACH terminal area.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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did you need any spacer for the drop or did it work. just having to fiddle with the distributor
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Old May 20, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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I didn't use a spacer, but I have a Victor Jr. intake, a little taller than yours I think. Not much taller though
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Old May 20, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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and does anyone know what or if i could get an adapter plate for the throttle lever for cruise and the kickdown?
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Not sure about a plate, but brackets are available.

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Re: Straight Answer

Originally Posted by five7kid
The 2101 has both square bore and spread bore bolt patterns. You don't need an adapter to bolt a square bore carb on it.

So, why the adapter?


five7 is right, i thought i had that in my post but guess i missed it
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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It was implied with what you said, but I wanted to make sure it was clear.
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