Always loved the Yellow Irocs but dont know if i ever seen a yellow one,did GM make a yellow convertible Iroc? what years?

 

I think just in 87 (correct me if I am wrong) but I think they stopped Daytona Yellow after 87 all together

 

you are correct 87 was the only year for yellow

 

So can i assume that a 1987 Yellow IROC Convertable 5 speed would be considered a rare car and the second question is does anybody care? I know that sounds wierd but rare doesnt make it valuable or collectable thats why i ask.I am looking to buy an Iroc and would like something on the collectable side to explain my questions. Thanks

 

Actually yellow was available on the Iroc for 1985-1987. Supposedly, ASC did some dealer conversions on the Camaros as soon as 1985.

It would be worth checking into. There are some collectors around here that like Yellow, and it is limited (years available).

 

1987 was the first year for a factory IROC convertible (true dealers had convertibles made by asc but they werent classified as factory convertibles)

 

This is usually a word issue, because none of them were actually built at the factory. They were all done off-site. There are no difference between a "factory" ASC Convertible and one that was done by ASC "aftermarket" before 1987 as the parts are the same. The only difference on the car would be the VIN itself as the 1987+ Camaro Convertibles received a special VIN to indicate a convertible, while the prior conversions did not.

ASC did produce a very few amount of convertibles before 1987, which 1987 is when the Camaro was officially available as a convertible.

Albeit I'm not as strong on the Camaro side, but that has been my understanding over the years. The Firebird side is slightly different, as 1991 was the official year the convertible was offered along with a special VIN while many prior conversions, without any special VIN, were converted prior to 1991.

Might want to look at this thread for some 1987 Camaro Convertible discussions:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...reak-down.html

 

1987 Camaro Convertible thread was very interesting ,with alot of useful information

 

Actually... Yellow was also available in 1988 for a short time... According to the White book 922 Yellow camaros were made in 1988

Granted IIRC it was on the SC only in 1988, but there is a chance that a yellow vert made it off the line...

 

Scott did mention that Yellow was available in 1988, but only on the SC and that Yellow was only available on the 85-87 IROC. As this thread was about an IROC Convertible, that was what I was referring to. Sorry for any confusion.

 

It sure would be neat if there is one in existence and it showed up.

 

More or less it was a clarification as there were some other people that said 1987 was the last year for yellow without the IROC clarification, it was simply a By the way thing.

John

 

Trivial side note, if any of you saw the red '86 Camaro vert (sorry, not IROC or yellow) that was on ebay a few weeks ago, the owner stated it was made by Choo Choo. I quizzed the owner a bit and that was not necessarily true. It has an ASC McLaren door sticker and looked very similar to the ’87 and later ASC verts. He stated it was a Choo Choo, only because someone at a car show once told the owner that that was what they thought it was. Hearsay. The very few Choo Choos I have seen all looked like ASC verts that were sent to Choo Choo for added modification, so that ebay car could possibly be a Choo Choo, but I doubt it if there is no documentation/badging.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...TQ:MOTORS:1123

 

According to a magazine article I read about another 86 Camaro, the article stated that ASC said they only made 82 Camaro verts in 1986. (Chevy Enthusiest)

sooo. his 743 number seems a bit high...

John

 

87 being an anniversary edition also got a firebird (well not entirely sure but it looks to be the same size)map pocket with 20th anniversary edition (in orange and red with brass tips on it on it too).

 

John, Can you share that article? I would love to read it.
As for the 743 Choo Choos, the seller had no idea what he was talking about. He did say there was a label on the passenger side dash stating: "Special Edition 0043". ASC McLaren was numbering the Mustang/Capri cars in a similar way, so I am guessing his was the 43rd ASC Camaro built for '86.

Sorry about the hijack! Back to Yellow IROCS......

 

From my private stash... well not really

Its from March 2010 Chevy Enthusiest, Pages 46

http://editions.amospublishing.com/C...01&pagenum=&f=

If you are not a subscriber, then subscribe online, I think its free. I think mine was... I got a paper version of the Pontiac Enthusiest

Look at Pages 43 thru 49

 

Good article. Reading the letter from ASC (from 2003) stating that 1986 was the first year they built F-body convertibles is odd. I have seen a few built in 1985. Maybe they did not have data on the cars built before that because the '85 cars and some '86 cars were labeled as ASC McLaren? Might have been a sister facility that had seperate record keeping, even though the conversion was the same?

 

It may be that 1986 was the first year for production and the 1985's were simply experimental or prototypes, It also could be that they may have converted some 1985's in 1986... It could also mean that 1986 was the first year for the dealer network being able to order cars... One thing that I have noticed about 1985 cars is they all seem to reside in MI... I know that 2 of the known 3 1986 Firebirds are in MI for example, which is (was?) ASC's headquarters.

ASC does or did own a dealership too...

I also noticed in the article that they said the extension on the door was 1986 only, which we all know they had that piece thru 1987 and some say early 1988...

John

 

I realize this is now a very old thread. But the content is still relevant. I have spent a long time not necassarily searching for but always keeping an eye out for a Yellow IROC convertible because that is my favorite color. I have never seen one from ANY production year. If they do exist they are incredibly rare. If anybody ever encounters one please contact me. I will buy it!

 

Never seen one... be a great car to look at, What would really be cool is:
1987 Z28 (non IROC) LB9/M5 Yellow-Charcoal GFX, Black interior, Convertible... It would look killer.

John

 

Not a good pic, but a yellow vert does exist

 

Ok so where is that pic from?

 

OK. I gave up on buying the 88 Conv with the 2 VIN code. It was obvious the motor was not original. BUT..... I just found a local 87 VIN 3 convertible with a 305 & 5 speed AND G92! 73k miles. Question. It has 5000/5500 tach. I thought all 305s were 4500/5000 tachs? The whole front sheet metal was replaced by a donor car and the car is a bit rough but runs and purrs like a kitten. Guy wants $3500 for it. I think that is a deal. Any thoughts?

 

FYI. I calclulated the mathematical chances or an 87 conv getting a 5 speed. We know there were 137,760,700 cars built. According to the White Book 115,109 were 700r's. That leaves 22,651 to be 5 speeds. Which is 16.4 % of the total production. So if there were 744 factory ordered convertibles then the mathematical chances of if being a 5 speed means there should have been approx 122 1987 IROC convertibles built with 5 speed. Now I have to figure out the mathematical chances of these 122 also having G92.

 

More mathematical calculations. BTW I'm not a mathematician so if anybody wants to debug my logic please feel free.

Earlier I deducted that there were approx 122 1987 IROC convertibles with 5 speeds. According to White Book 7.6% of all 1987 camaros were built with G92. So.... 7.6% of 122 comes out to 9.2 cars being 1987 IROC convertibles built with 305, 5 speed and G92. Of course this is all mathematical speculation. Hmmm. I wonder how many of those were black?

 

Neil, I've also wondered about numbers on the car you are referring. Somewhere I've seen similar statistics. To your question of black ones - I have one optioned as you state.

 

I have discovered one flaw in my math and logic. I think the calculations boiling it down to something like 122 1987 IROC convertibles with 305 & 5 speed is solid. But my flaw is in the G92 calcs. I read in another thread that the only way to get G92 in 87 was with a 305 5 speed combo. So it is possible and maybe even likely that all or a large chunk of the 122 convertibles did come with G92. It is very unlikely that only 9 of then came with G92.

 

I have seen a few G92 equipped convertibles - enough to agree with your assessment that there were more than 9.

 

I have also seen it stated that early in 1988 you could no longer get G92 equipped convertibles.

 

I'm pulling the trigger on this one and buying it today. The guy is bringing it to me this afternoon. BTW it's grey leather interior with loads of other options. I gotta believe this is a pretty rare car. The RPO codes indicate something called European style high back bucket seats. Anybody know how that differs from the "normal" seats?

 

I recently saw this exact pic. Unless I am mistaken I think this pic came from a possibly CURRENT online ad that has this car for sale. (I could be wrong). I think in the last 3 weeks I have browsed and seen every IROC for sale in the entire nation and most of Canada too!

 

I own car #90, which is a 1986 IROC, so I think they had to have built at least 8 more..

 

I need more info. How do you know it is car #90? Does your car have the "special edition" badge on the passenger side of the dash? If so, does it state: "Special edition #0090"? Does it have an ASC label in the door jamb? If so, What is the date on that label?

I am not doubting you, I am just curious, since I am researching the subject. As a bonus, I would love to see a photo or two of your car.

 

Yes, it does have the badge on the dash, and it also has the ASC replacement cover where the rear defrost switch would have been. However, it does not for whatever reason have a label in the door jamb. I picked the car up for a rediculously cheap price at a impound auction. It wasnt in the greatest shape, but is complete, and after a fuel pump, plugs and wires, runs great. Everything works as it should. I'm doing a restoration of sorts on the car, and taking my time doing it. The worst part was of course floor pans. a few holes here and there, so they can be patched. It's taking longer than planned, because its stored about an hour from my home. Anyway, my photos are too large, ill have to take some this week and post them.

 

One theory I have had for some time on the numbered preproduction cars is that they did not restart in 1986, and 1987... They were sequential, as I have not seen any 87 convertibles with lower sequence numbers...

However I am not completely convinced of ASC's reporting. Especially when it comes to combinations, I have an Official letter from ASC stating that there was only 10 Formula 350 Convertibles... But I know of more than 10, AND I am positive there is at least 42...

John

 

Sweet first on i have seen! yellow being my Favorite

 

This is a old old thread but if anyone is still interseted i subbled upon the one and only REAL YELLOW REAL 87 convertible a one of one about a year ago on windycitymotorsports for 19k with 70k miles mild wear on bumper but still a cream puff wish i coulda snagged it but bought my own yellow 86 around that time so i had no more cash to blow figured i throw that out there

 

A classmate of mine got killed in a yellow, 1988 Sport coupe convertible back in 1995. It had gray ground effects. I've never seen another one like that.


Also, earlier in this thread they were talking about G92, 5 speed convertibles. I have a 1988, G92, 5 speed IROC-Z convertible. I'm curious as to how many were built?

 

to my knowledge 905 yellow camaros were made in 88 and only on sport coupes wasn’t available on RS or Iroc now I think they only made a few thousand convertibles and once you do the math that yellow convertible was probably 1 of 10 maybe 20 produced sorry to hear about your Friend btw I don’t know much about the g92 cars but don’t think many were made in a convertible. In 1988 they discontinued the yellow gold that was used on irocs and z28s and started making pale yellow and only 905 were made Available only on the sport coupe model

 

Yep, it looked exactly like this....only a convertible

 

OK... I was watching the old "Elvira: Mistress of the Dark" movie from the late 80's on Pluto TV recently... and one of the characters drives a yellow convertible third gen... wow....caught my attention. Tan interior....

Movie is pretty classic 80's cheese... scenery is not too bad.

 

I looked at several 1987 convertibles for sale and it seemed almost all were G92 5-speeds. I think that was a popular combo for the 20th anniversary for whatever reason or whoever bought them saved them and is selling them. The 87 Convertible IROCs either seem to be 5-speed G92 or LG4 when they come up for sale..

1988-1990 5-speed convertibles and even coupes seem very rare... To find a 1988 G92 5-speed Convertible is pretty rare... I hadn’t seen any come up in a decade of looking. There is a collector that has a red one listed on his collection website with very low miles but that’s the only one I’ve heard of. I don’t think they made G92 convertibles in 1989 or 1990.

I’d say a yellow 1987 5-speed G92 Convertible would be just as hard to find. They seem to be mostly in Red, Dark red, Black and a few blue ones...

You can’t really guess the numbers based on percentages because for example they only made 744 convertibles in 1987 but 70% of them could have 5-speeds whereas in 1988 out of 3,761 convertibles there might be only 10% 5-speeds... That’s how it seems when you’re looking for them in the market anyways...

 

Yes, it seems that that most '87 IROC, 'verts I've run across have been G92 5 speeds, with a sprinkling of non-G92 5 speeds. The only other powertrain choice for those 744 were and LG4/700R4/2.73 non-posi. On the '88 IROC convertible you could also get an LB9 auto G92 which gave you a 3.23 gear, KC4 oil cooler and 145 mph speedo.

 

Hey! You have seen another 88 IROC-Z convertible, G92, 5 speed!!

 

G92 was not that expensive of an option in 1987 & 1988
$21.00 MSRP, (Equivalent to $48.00 in today's money)
$17.22 it cost the dealer,
$17.85 Invoice
it was no wonder it was popular...
Ltd Slip was $100.00

THEN in 1989, it went to $177.00 MSRP, which included the N10... Dealer Invoice was $150.45, and Dealer price was $145.14, and it was no longer available on the Convertible.
limited Slip was another $100.00 MSRP BTW

 

I know! Other than yours the bright red one that a collector has is the only other one I’ve ever seen!

Even that other 89 5-speed with 15k miles in our color scheme isn’t G92...

Your car is a little extra rare!

 

Interesting... I wonder why you rarely see 88 G92 5-speeds come up for sale... maybe the type of person that would order one drove the hell out of it, modded it and totaled it?

You could also speculate in the 80s people wanted automatics and gas mileage...

 

It wasn't very expensive, but it "forced" other options like, 16" wheels, J65, and TPI.

 

Probably, I do not know the particulars, some years you could get G92 without anything else...