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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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r-12 question

hey guys my system has been dead for 10 years . i do havac for a living... im going to nitrogen the system to check for leaks ...vaccum down the system ...what i need to know how much r12 is the factory charge and also since its been dead for so long im wondering if i need to and any oil to the system since im not going to 134a ?
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Re: r-12 question

does anyone know the the amount the factory charge is...is it 2lb or 2lb 6oz of r12????
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Re: r-12 question

Hi Glock, R12 system requires 48 ounces which is equal to 3 pounds.
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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ok thanks i just wanted to weigh in the charge ...
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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Re: r-12 question

If you have trouble finding R12, I might have a few cans left in the garage that i can sell.
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 11:52 PM
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Re: r-12 question

On my car, the R-12 is 2.25 lbs.

As for the mineral oil. I'm not sure really. I don't think it would have corroded. On the other hand, if it hasn't been circulated in that long, who knows. I guess you could see how loud the compressor is. Maybe add an oz of oil. I'm just guessing.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Re: r-12 question

hey haha, i need R12 filler stuff [= id gladly buy
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 06:26 AM
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Re: r-12 question

Just a note. The common impression is that R12 is difficult and/or impossible to find, but I've never experienced that problem either in my former community of 1800 souls or here in Lawrence (going in for a charge on Monday).

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Re: r-12 question

I converted mine over to R-134A, I actually had it professionally done and it works really well... I tried the DIY conversion and it was ok, but once I had them drain the system, and recharge it fresh it was great...

R134A is a ton cheeper too...

If you have R-12 then go for it. As for the weight, I am no expert but I usually charged it until the pressures were right on the gages... maybe that was my problem...

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Re: r-12 question

Originally Posted by okfoz
I converted mine over to R-134A, I actually had it professionally done and it works really well...
That wasn't my experience. On a 95 degree day, with 134, I wasn't sweating but I was darn close. I disliked it so much that when the compressor failed, I returned to R12.

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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Re: r-12 question

Originally Posted by JamesC
That wasn't my experience. On a 95 degree day, with 134, I wasn't sweating but I was darn close. I disliked it so much that when the compressor failed, I returned to R12.

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Originally Posted by JamesC
That wasn't my experience. On a 95 degree day, with 134, I wasn't sweating but I was darn close. I disliked it so much that when the compressor failed, I returned to R12.

JamesC

Did you ever measure the vent temperatures of each?

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Re: r-12 question

Originally Posted by Reid Fleming
Did you ever measure the vent temperatures of each?
The poor AC guy had the car in several times because of my dissatisfaction, and although he certainly made an effort, his efforts went in vain.

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