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Old 08-04-2012, 08:14 PM
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DYI Freon, how much is too much/not enough without a gauge?

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I want to charge the AC on my 84 T/A, but have no idea how much is in it or now much is "Charged"...and I don't want to put too much in. Also, which port is the high and low? Is the one on the cannister the low or the one on the lower line (by the frame) the low? Simple questions but search hasn't dug up anything concrete and I can't find my Chiltons, it's buried in a box somewhere after our move here.
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Re: DYI Freon, how much is too much/not enough without a gauge?

Ok, those who have done it before, how much needs to go in before it's overcharged? That way I know how much not to put in. Is one can enough for a full charge?
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Re: DYI Freon, how much is too much/not enough without a gauge?

I'll try to help you since you are a nice guy and I shipped you parts before. Total charge 3 pounds or 48 ounces of R-12 if you have converted to R-134a 80% of the R-12 charge. If you have no refrigerant in the system due to a leak or component replacement, the system will need to be evaccuated with a vacuum pump first to remove all non condensables (air) If you feel you need to add refrigerant, you first need to find the leak unless you feel that it is a very small one.

The line you need to tap onto is one leaving the large aluminum canistor called an accumulator. Running at 1500 rpm R-12 pressure should be 38 psig, R134a 44psig. Make sure you are doing this outside and not in a garage.

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Re: DYI Freon, how much is too much/not enough without a gauge?

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I'll try to help you since you are a nice guy and I shipped you parts before. Total charge 3 pounds or 48 ounces of R-12 if you have converted to R-134a 80% of the R-12 charge. If you have no refrigerant in the system due to a leak or component replacement, the system will need to be evaccuated with a vacuum pump first to remove all non condensables (air) If you feel you need to add refrigerant, you first need to find the leak unless you feel that it is a very small one.

The line you need to tap onto is one leaving the large aluminum canistor called an accumulator. Running at 1500 rpm R-12 pressure should be 38 psig, R134a 44psig. Make sure you are doing this outside and not in a garage.

BTW, I was in the HVAC industry for 30 years
Thanks for the assist! I don't have the money at the moment, to replace an accumulator or compressor if they're bad, so the plan is to use one of the cans of off the shelf R134 with the stop leak and dye in it. The hope is the stop leak will keep it from leaking, and if nothing else, the dye will tell me where i'ts leaking so I know what to replace later. Thanks again for the help!
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Re: DYI Freon, how much is too much/not enough without a gauge?

You can also put a thermometer in your vent and watch the temperature of the air. Less than scientific but it works, add refrigerant slowly and watch that thermometer. At 2000 rpm with all climate controls on the high settings you should be fully charged somewhere between 50 or 60 degrees at the vent.
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Re: DYI Freon, how much is too much/not enough without a gauge?

When I did mine they had a refill kit that came with a gauge that wasn't to spendy.
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