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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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87 El Camino 305

No volt reference out of pin 21 on ecm. 3 ecms installed.Grounds at engine at aldl and alternator repaired. Wiring all checks out good.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 04:12 AM
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Car: '90 IROC Convertible
Engine: 305 TPI LB9
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Disc Brake LSD
Re: 87 El Camino 305

What is your application here? Motor? ECM #?
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:45 AM
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Re: 87 El Camino 305

ECM. Put 3 in car . No Votage from reference pin 21/416 circuit. No codes, check engine light on. Lamp driver good.
What in the car could cause the ecm not to put out a 5 volt reference at pin 21.
Grounds all repaired and good, wiring repaired and good.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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Re: 87 El Camino 305

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ECM. Put 3 in car . No Votage from reference pin 21/416 circuit. No codes, check engine light on. Lamp driver good.
What in the car could cause the ecm not to put out a 5 volt reference at pin 21.
Grounds all repaired and good, wiring repaired and good.
With no +5 volt ref on that pin should get at least a TPS low malfunction code.

Remove the terminal from the ECM harness connector. With the ECM plugged in and key-on, engine off, check the voltage at the ECM pin 21. If it is now there then there is a short on that wire/device someplace.

If still no voltage check the BAT+ and IGN+ feeds to the ECM. They both require +12 volts for the ECM to power up and run.

Does the SES light turn on (key-on, engine-off)? If not, then either the lamp driver is bad or the ECM isn't powering up.

Does the MSC click at key-on, engine-off? Most likely it should (most ECMs do oscillate it, some do not). If not that is a sign that the ECM isn't powering up.

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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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Re: 87 El Camino 305

SES light on all the time, driver new, if we ground it to the car light goes out.
No codes, mechanic cut wire 6 inches up pin 21 to take sesors out of play. No ref voltage. Will have him check bat voltage.
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