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Do I need to change PROM for a 700R4 to T5 conversion?

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Old Apr 24, 2015 | 08:01 AM
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Do I need to change PROM for a 700R4 to T5 conversion?

I'm getting conflicting results from my searches. Does the PROM need to be changed for this swap? Its my understanding that the ECM doesn't care what transmission is in the car, as it only controls the engine, and as far as the transmission, just converter lock up. If this is the case, why would the PROM need attention? Its still controlling the same engine. I was just about ready to make a purchase on the T5, then I ran into this. To be honest, if I have to start messing around with the ECM I'll likely stay with the 700. Unless I'm really over thinking this.
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Old Apr 24, 2015 | 02:34 PM
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Re: Do I need to change PROM for a 700R4 to T5 conversion?

Just because it's an engine controller does not mean that the transmission doesn't matter.

There are differences in the way the engine will run and react to throttle input and vehicle motion between automatic and manual transmissions. The TCC as you said is also a different portion of the way the ECM will control the drivetrain. The manual trans equipped vehicle has no need for a TCC, so this output is used for the (economy) shift light.

There are slight differences in IAC logic, and some other small differences that oevrall add up.

Most people find that when they use auto PROMs on a manual trans equipped vehicle that stalling when coming to a stop is common, some idle issues can also show up.

As long as everything is stock, you would be able to get away with a simple swap of the MEMCAL/PROM, to a proper manual trans calibration for your car with matching gear set.
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Old Apr 24, 2015 | 05:09 PM
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Re: Do I need to change PROM for a 700R4 to T5 conversion?

Originally Posted by Six_Shooter
Just because it's an engine controller does not mean that the transmission doesn't matter.

There are differences in the way the engine will run and react to throttle input and vehicle motion between automatic and manual transmissions. The TCC as you said is also a different portion of the way the ECM will control the drivetrain. The manual trans equipped vehicle has no need for a TCC, so this output is used for the (economy) shift light.

There are slight differences in IAC logic, and some other small differences that oevrall add up.

Most people find that when they use auto PROMs on a manual trans equipped vehicle that stalling when coming to a stop is common, some idle issues can also show up.

As long as everything is stock, you would be able to get away with a simple swap of the MEMCAL/PROM, to a proper manual trans calibration for your car with matching gear set.
Right now I have a Jet Stage 2 chip on my auto EPROM. My engine is bored .020, I have 2.02 intake valves, headers, a mild cam. Things like that. Is a custom PROM something I'd be able to do myself? The Jet is for an auto so I assume I'd be taking that out.
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