Anyone read the latest installment of their "My Generation Camaro" article in this issue? In short, they put a 355 cu. in. motor in an '87 Camaro that produces almost 400hp on the dyno. They can't figure out why it's best run was a 14.78. In their article they say that they asked Hypertech to custom make them a chip for this engine, and that's what they're running in the car. I bet it's safe to say that they're getting such horrible numbers because it's tuned sooo poorly. For a while there, I think they were using the stock 305 chip on that new engine. What do you think?

 

didnt they take that car to jet and it pissed coolant all over the place on thier dyno whiel they were testign the hyeperjunk?

 

6,000# of test driver?.

Actually them magazines, use California HP. They get a correction factor for the smog.

Makes you wonder how they made that HP on the dyno and lost so much installing it. Sounds like there's a fib in there.

Or these mystery dyno sessions, where they tune a motor in 4 pulls. Ya, right....

 

The editor mentioned something about that in the beginning of the magazine. He said that all the numbers were true, but they really couldn't figure out why it's performing so poorly in the car. I thought that was kinda weird until I read that they were using Hypertech chips.

 

Not to give CHP any pats on the back or anything but the only thing Hypertech did was to recurve the timing. The engine is running a computer controled carb. They think they have some restrictions in the air cleaner asm. Sounds to me they have a lot more problems than that.

Steve

 

What a waste! They should of kept the 305. I like how these mags start out with a "budget" project and they keep stretching it out to a non-exsistent budget for most rodders.

 

Man, we need to get a 'homebrew-tuned' car in that magazine for a good writeup on DIY-PROM stuff. Show them what can be done. I haven't seen even so much as a peep in the mags on this issue, and I think it's pretty key.

I suppose it's difficult to get a magazine to support something in an article when it doesn't support their advertisers. After all, that's all those buildup articles are right? Just one big advertisement on "Buy this part, that part from this vendor. They're one of our big advertisers!"

Ah well...

 

I can think up a LOT of combinations off the top of my head that'll run in the 13's n/a for under $2000. Like you said, the Magazine needs people to buy these parts but they are more worried about the advertisers than they are the readers. Don't forget that the readers pay for an issue as well!!! I bet the reason for car crafts success was readers and feedback. They do some really cool stuff in that magazine. I find it to be the last real hot-rod directory hard-copy.
It's pretty sad that they're having troubles with it's performance. I never even read the article but it sounds like they've got their hands full.

 

Y'all hit the KEY WORD.... PAID ADVERTISING...


There are more ads in the mags now than actual print.

Ever seen a magazine bad mouth one of the products they tried out?

It's all about the money, and the fact these companies donate all the parts, so it's not like they are spending THEIR money on the project....that reshapes the whole concept of DIY.


DIY PROM? in a nationally circulated magazine? Watch your tongue!!!! Do you know how fast that Hypertech or JET, or whoever else would either cry foul, or imagine the lawsuits when someone exposed their "custom" chip to be a 5 minute hack to bump the timing some....."peformance tuning" my eye....


It's all about what sells.

Whenever a "grass roots" magazine starts, it's usually VERY good, but issues, and length are effected because publishing these things are expensive...then once the mag gets enough exposure, it attracts advertisers, and pretty soon, bye bye DIY , hello Accel, Holley, MSD, etc etc etc....


Just my 2 cents

YMMV, ESPECIALLY if you used a Hypertech chip...

 

i sent them an email ill post the reply here.

 

They won't reply, I've tried before...

 

Funstick, what did you tell them?

 

Yeah, I guess they lost 150hp in the headers, what a joke. At least they mentioned the headers as being one of the possible "corks" that could be hurting the performance. Gimme a break, they need to rip that carb off and completely check the fuel system for problems not to mention, like stated above, that junk computer chip. But jeez I can't believe they even printed that trollup of an article. They should get the car right before they make us thirdgen owners look like comedians in their magazine. I've lost about half the respect I had for CHP after reading this latest installment of a 2-year build-up. About the only reason I still like them is for their head flow database. I'm just venting I'll get over it in a few days.

 

So, does anyone want to burn me a custom prom??? J/K

 

Why not make a page here for everyone to list their car and its makeup (engine/suspension parts) HP/TQ numbers (if known) or estimates, and the 1/4 mile times (if you are lucky enough to have a track close enough) and pictures. Make it a "static" page, you can only post once but can edit your post as you add/change things on the car.
Then direct the attention of the mags editors to that page so they can see what REAL mechanics and car enthusiasts can do and for one buttload less money than they can.
I bet most people use products that they endorse anyway, not all but some of them.