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wierd problem, car going rich after 5500 and strange DYNO outcome.

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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by junkcltr
doubling up gaskets???? I guess you got lucky that the coolant port wasn't leaking into any cylinders.
It looks like larger injectors are still needed.
Never heard of it?? I think at the time I would have had to wait like 1 week from summit due to special order or something..
So I doubled em.... Have done it in the past.... If I can recall I glued them together between water and intake ports, just not the narrow section. - Wish I knew how longs its been like that....
Yeah, inj are deffinetly needed still, and have been for last 4 years. But hey, it was working well so I rolled with it.
It was one of those things on the to do list that got overlooked over the years.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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Car: 91 GTA, 91 Formula, 89 TTA
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Hey for all the complaining be happy you found the cause.

Its a cheap fix and a happy ending.

Cant beat those in my book.

Now get it resealed and see how much more u can get out of it :-)

later
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by 3.8TransAM
Hey for all the complaining be happy you found the cause.

Its a cheap fix and a happy ending.

Cant beat those in my book.

Now get it resealed and see how much more u can get out of it :-)

later
Jeremy
Yeah, you are right...
Still dyno output seemed low, far as im concerned - its been like that for a pretty long time. But, its been 4 years on this combo and had broken (2) dist. grears in it just after it was built.
Till I found mini ram had it sitting about 1/4" to high - and that was before I was using 2 gaskets for the record.

So time to tear down and see the damage from all the abuse,

I am over all the dyno stress,
Thanks for all the help.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Here is an interesting read from Precision industries web site about loose converters on the dyno, pretty mush explains what happened to me:

http://www.converter.com/whatsnew_dynamometer.htm


Thats from www.converter.com
under "The trusth about loose converters on the dyno"
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Car: 92 Form, 91 Z28, 89 GTA, 86 Z28
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Did the dyno you went to use the wheel speed as the RPM input, or did they put an inductive clamp on a spark plug wire? That should make a pretty big difference there.

If they used the wheel speed, they would have had to either A) Calculate the roll to engine ratio by knowing your gear ratios, or B) Autocalibrate it by (i.e.) holding the RPM at 3000, telling the software that it's at 3000, and hitting "ok" like what our mustand dyno does. That RPM can be changed, also. If the TC was slipping a lot during that calibration, or if they weren't very careful, it can affect the readings, but probably not by 50-75hp.

An RPM pickup from a spark plug wire shouldn't have that error, automatically, but I can't say I've compared the two on the dyno (becuase the dyno we used in the US doesn't have that pickup).
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