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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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Question about 749 repining !!! HELP!!

730 ECM 749 ECM
A8------------->A9 (ALDL data) not necessary
C1------------->B12 (VSS for cruise)
C11------------>C12 (Injectors 1,3,5,7)
C12------------>C11 (Injectors 2,4,6,8)
D6-------------->C13 (Injector ground)
E3-------------->E4 (IAC coil A high)
E4-------------->E3 (IAC coil A low)
E5-------------->E6 (IAC coil B high)
E6-------------->E5 (IAC coil B low)
F1-------------->F4 (shift light) for manual trans
F2-------------->disconnect (AIR pump solenoid)
F6-------------->F4 (TCC) for automatic trans


Question about F1-------->F4 ???

Not clearly what to do with F4 ???!!!!
It should be disconnected ?
Or it on a place F1 or F6 connect?
Write who knows, please

possible variants:

F1 <------> F4
or
F1 --------> F4 and F4 ----disconnect
or
F1 --------> F4

???? HELP ME PLEASE
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Well it depends on which trans you have. It looks like you have a 4l60 according to your signature. If so you shouldn't have a wire on pin F1. So just connect your exixting F6(730) ecm to pin F4 on your 749 ecm. The F4 in the 749 ecm will either control a shift light or a TCC solenoid depending on trans & chip.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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understood

Thank for the fast answer
But you have understood me not so - I know that I should use F6
( F1- is not used)
Question in what to do with F4????
To leave it there where it was or to disconnect ?

F6 to F4 = F6+F4
or
F6 to F4 = (F6 in F4) and F4 disconnect
or
F6 swap F4 = (F6 in F4) and (F4 in F6)
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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From the AUJP hac- 7730 on left, 749 on right.b You'll have to ask what the abreviation was used for the Air divert on a 749.
I thought the 58 FAQ sticky said what to do with it.

Code:
ECM    Function               $58   
Conn                                
                                    
 F1    Shift Light             A/C	
 F2    EGR Port Sol            WG	
 F3    Blank-Same as SES?     Blank 
 F4    Air Divert              TCC	
 F5    Blank (CARS out D.C)   Blank	
 F6    TCC                    Blank 
 F7    CCP Sol                Blank	
 F8    Blank-Same as MUXA?    Blank 
 E3    IAC A Hi			4002, b0   
 E4    IAC A Lo               Same	
 E5    IAC B Hi			4002, b1   
 E6    IAC B Lo		 Same	4002, b
 E7    SES                     SES	
 E8    FAN1                    CAC	
 E9    EGR Sol                 EVRV	
 A2    Relay 2-Same as TCC?    Blank

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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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opps!

The friends!
You again have not understood me!
I should learn, after repining what will be with F4?

F4 There will be in the place where it and was?
Or
F4 It is necessary to disconnect from the plug?
Or
F4 It is necessary to connect to a socket F6?

Well I can not understand in any way, forgive the fool, please
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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Your existing F4 on your 730 ecm does not get connected. It's job is for air managment. The 749 does not support this as far as I know. Some board members are working on that right now. Unless you have to get emmissions tested, don't worry about it.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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thanks

I have understood so - what F4 - DISCONNECT - correctly?

Hence I should choose the circuit "C"



variant "A"

F6 F4
I I
I I
I I
I I
O O
F6-socket F4-socket


Variant "B"

F6 F4
I I
I---------------I I
I I
I I
O I--------------O
F6-socket F4-socket


Variant "C"

F6 F4
I I
I---------------I X (disconnect)
I
I
O I-------------O
F6-socket F4-socket


Variant "D"

F6 F4
I I
I---------------I I
--- I --------------I
I-----------I I
O I--------------O
F6-socket F4-socket
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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OYYYAAA

oyyaa - forgive - all has deteriorated
I so long drew that it was clear

- F4 disconnect!
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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I have wire on a socket F4

I have wire on a socket F4 - Black/Pink wire color (Diverter solenoid)
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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OK, Last time. Remove the wire in cavity F4 and leave it not connected. Take the wire from cavity F6 and put it in cavity F4.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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GREAT THANKS

THANK HUGE
At YOU the LARGE PATIENCE
THANK
NOW I HAVE UNDERSTOOD
EXCUSE THAT I HAVE ANGERED - DID NOT WANT
ONCE AGAIN THANK
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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I don't think anyone is angry, just a communication breakdown. I'm happy you understand. Just remember none of the air management and canister purge items are used with the 749.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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and my TT Vette

And what for cleaning of the canister is necessary?
The correct work of the engine without it is possible?
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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E8 or E9 is the canister I think.
Look around for a SYTY pin out. Try DIY_EFI or SYTY.org ????
Might ask what those two pins are if no one chimes in.



No Canister.... what were you thinking.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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Wow, thats cool! You built this in Moscow, most of us in the USA can't even get this done. Nice job. Honestly I would be more worried about finding something to hold on to. This car is going to be very fast. You can rework the canister to open on vacuum, you will need to use a purge valve from a carbureted GM car and make the proper vacuum hose connections. I can look into what is needed at work & get back to you.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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I think CAC is for the intercooler pump. Not sure.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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I am very glad that you liked mine corvette
Thank
We have collected it in Russia from the American components
But much made by hands - it was very difficult
We have spent 2.5 months - made with the friend together
Complexity in that in corvette c4 is not enough of a place for the large turbines
I shall be glad if you to me help with the canister ventilation

E8 - Quad Driver (Fan)
E9 - Quad Driver (PWM)
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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YES

YES.

E8 - CAC Pump contr. relay
(i looked to scheme)
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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I just checked on Mitchell On Demand5. E8 is CAC pump control. E9 is EVRV control. The canister purge system on an Sy/Ty is basic. One feed from fuel tank, one vent to atmosphere, and one ported vacuum source. There is a vacuum check valve on the ported supply side. It looks like the Sy/Ty purges whenever there is a ported vacuum supply.

EVRV=egr valve control
CAC=intercooler pump
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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Thank 87tpi7749, for this important for me the information.
I shall understand as to alter
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