Need some suggestions on what lbs injectors!
Need some suggestions on what lbs injectors!
Guys,
The car in the signature has 24lb injectors. I finally got the car running well with the stock 89vette manual no vats chip. Runs like a crackhead!(its all good). Well as good as it can get at the moment anyways. Ok, well if i sit at an idle for a few seconds my, autometer air/fuel ratio gauge tells me i'm running WAY lean. I remember reading somewhere that Glenn has set his injector flow rate up to 30lbs with the stock 22lb injectors?
Could i get some oppinions/votes to what i should try? I was thinking with starting at 32lbs and then seeing what happens. Oh and i don't have diacom or any other scanner type set up at the moment. Working towards that in the near future. Just want to get the car running the best i can till i can swing the diacom.
Thanks,
Brendan
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1987 IROC-Z L98,SuperRam,EB 6085's,LPE 219/219 Roller, Crane 1.6RR, EB TPI Base, 58mm TB, ADS 24#, AFPR, K&N, EB TES, Catco Cat, 3" Borla Cat-Back, Accel cap,rotor,distro/other crap, MSD 6AL, MSD Blaster 3, Aluminum DS, 94 Disk Rear, Adjustable Valve, Precision 3.73 Gears, Sub-Frame Connectors, Hotchkis Lower Control Arms, KYB Shocks/Struts, Suspension Techniques Lowering Springs, Polyurethan Bushings all over the place, Moog Upper/Lower Ball joints and Tie Rods ends/Idler Arm,
To see the ROC, Check out the webpage Here
The car in the signature has 24lb injectors. I finally got the car running well with the stock 89vette manual no vats chip. Runs like a crackhead!(its all good). Well as good as it can get at the moment anyways. Ok, well if i sit at an idle for a few seconds my, autometer air/fuel ratio gauge tells me i'm running WAY lean. I remember reading somewhere that Glenn has set his injector flow rate up to 30lbs with the stock 22lb injectors?
Could i get some oppinions/votes to what i should try? I was thinking with starting at 32lbs and then seeing what happens. Oh and i don't have diacom or any other scanner type set up at the moment. Working towards that in the near future. Just want to get the car running the best i can till i can swing the diacom.
Thanks,
Brendan
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1987 IROC-Z L98,SuperRam,EB 6085's,LPE 219/219 Roller, Crane 1.6RR, EB TPI Base, 58mm TB, ADS 24#, AFPR, K&N, EB TES, Catco Cat, 3" Borla Cat-Back, Accel cap,rotor,distro/other crap, MSD 6AL, MSD Blaster 3, Aluminum DS, 94 Disk Rear, Adjustable Valve, Precision 3.73 Gears, Sub-Frame Connectors, Hotchkis Lower Control Arms, KYB Shocks/Struts, Suspension Techniques Lowering Springs, Polyurethan Bushings all over the place, Moog Upper/Lower Ball joints and Tie Rods ends/Idler Arm,
To see the ROC, Check out the webpage Here
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You'll actually want to -lower- the injector constant if you're running lean. But since this lean condition is just at idle, then that shouldn't be a big problem. My IROC also runs lean in block learn cell 0 (idle in drive or park, I forget which one) with block learns around 140, but they're 126-130 everywhere else. I know I need to adjust the 1st MAF table but I haven't thought and researched it enough to figure out which way to changed it. I do know that the MAF is reading 6-7 grams/second at idle if that helps anyone...
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Greg Westphal
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Greg is right, increasing the injector flow constant shortens the pulse width (leans). You'd want to do the opposite as Greg suggest; decrease the constant to increase the pulse width and richen it.
But I must caution you that this change results in a "global" change; thus it would richen you throughout.
If everything else looks "reasonable", I would play with the smaller value of the MAF Scalar tables. This would result in changing just the area you want to work with.
I am slowly starting to understand MAF and it seems you have to match Fuel (and spark) to air flow vs load like we do with SD.
It may take a little experimentation, but once you "play" with some of the settings, you will begin to see how they affect the BLM/INTs.
Also, I prefer to lock the BLM to 128 (min/max) and work with the INT by itself. Its a "finer" level of change. On SD cars, the relationship is changeable; but basically every 5 INTs = 1 BLM change.
But I must caution you that this change results in a "global" change; thus it would richen you throughout.
If everything else looks "reasonable", I would play with the smaller value of the MAF Scalar tables. This would result in changing just the area you want to work with.
I am slowly starting to understand MAF and it seems you have to match Fuel (and spark) to air flow vs load like we do with SD.
It may take a little experimentation, but once you "play" with some of the settings, you will begin to see how they affect the BLM/INTs.
Also, I prefer to lock the BLM to 128 (min/max) and work with the INT by itself. Its a "finer" level of change. On SD cars, the relationship is changeable; but basically every 5 INTs = 1 BLM change.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by leirch:
Yes the car dies after a few seconds of idle. probly about 15-30seconds, it varies.
kicks from 700-900rpms and then down to 500 sometimes. Then die when it feels like it</font>
Yes the car dies after a few seconds of idle. probly about 15-30seconds, it varies.
kicks from 700-900rpms and then down to 500 sometimes. Then die when it feels like it</font>
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