..mine came with 6 stripped ends.

I'm using s_aujp v4, 730 ecm, TunerproRT.

As I understand:
1. RED-wire up the power supply to a switched 12vdc source
2. BLUE & WHITE - locate a single good common ground.
3. YELLOW - analog 1 to my narrow band indicator.
4. BROWN - analog 2 to wideband input at F14 (or A3).
5. BLACK - Calibration wire to ground, via switch, if used.

On TunerPro:

At location 2000:
SET Bit 5

At location 2001:
1.) SET Bit 1 and
2.a)SET Bit 7 (if wb wired to Pin A3)
or
2.b)Bit 7 is NOT set if wb wired to F14)

Is that really it? Or am I missing something?

 

That should be good to go
Don't be in a hurry to connect the grounds just anywhere though.
The "Power" ground (Black) is best to be connected to the head if possible to reduce the change of large voltage differential when cranking. (See Innovate web forums for allot of conversations regading that)
I ran mine with the ground from the heated o2 sensor.
I tried to keep the ground for the outputs (White) with the grounds from the ECM. I don't think its really needed but is just good practice to avoid any resistance that could skew the readings.

Def connect the calibration button and the light. Run extension wires if needed up under the dash near your seat (or dash mount them). Mine is still dangling around the steerring column but you will use it for sure.

 

This may be covered somewhere else but where is the WB data displayed with that WB hac?

 

Word 37 in the ALDL datastream.
In the place of "KEEP ALIVE IAC MIN MOTOR STEPS"

That is so you can view it with any logging program.

 

A/F ratio I gather?

this is going to be curious...

 

Yes, the display will be AF ratio but without the decimal place.
Will show values from 100 (10.0:1) to 200 (20.0:1)
In TP you can make the decimal place show, other programs you may not be able to change the display so the author made it so it could be read easily.
The IAC steps are always shown without scaling so it was the best choice to use.

 

with my narrowband I've been ratioing the BLM value to 128 and then calculating a new VE value.
What am I to do with the wideband? try to maintain 14.7 (or 147 as you say) at all times?
When you mentioned the IAC steps, and the values; your previous message about Word 37 then made more sense....
Now then, what is it that I would select on the TunerproRT Dash? There are multiple Wideband options to select for the dash????

 

Not really, for part throttle cruising you combo might like to be a little richer/leaner for good clean running. Use the WB as a reference to what you are telling the NB and BLM to do. Let the NB sensor do its job.
You would use the WB reading as a reference to change the values in your o2 tables if needed to accomplish richer/leaner cruising as the NB sees it.

They are all reading the same word from the ALDL datastream. They are just scaled differently for display purposes.
The "Raw" option will indicate counts from 0-255 steps that doesn't make it easy to understand the AFR but is good for troubleshooting if you suspect strange readings.
If you have "Raw" selected in the bin, you can use this one
"WB AFR (LC-1 0-5V Raw)"
AFR when using the WB Patch RAW option 0-5V = 7.35-22.39 :1"

The other selection will display in AFR for you when a sensor type is specified in the bin.
"WB AFR Output"
"For use with the WB Patch reads 10 to 20:1 AFR range."

Note:
The WB display is coded to only run when the engine is Running.
This tidbit can drive you nuts unless you know. Especially when setting it up to confirm operation. There is a slight warmup period before the LC-1 begins to output readings as well. You can define that startup and failed sensor voltage within the Innovate software.

 

i am lost as to this location 2000 and location 2001
this is what i see in tuner pro..
what else should i do to get the LC-1 to show up
while datalogging

 

The picture didn't show up but all you need to do is set the "bits" in the bin file to select the options for WB use.
The option words were at location 2000 and 2001 in the original release.
They have been moved around a little to allow the V4 to work in the NVSRAM module.

IIRC the addresses are now at 899A and 899B.
They are called "WB OPT 1" and "WB OPT 2" (names stayed the same)

Select bit 5 in the Option word 1 (for the LC-1 type of WB)
Select bit 7 to use pin A3
Should read then.
Be sure to program the output on the LC-1 (or you'll get wrong numbers)
HTH

 

....and also, what version of s_aujpv4 is it that changed locations to 899A & 899B?
Anyway, I'm using the firstish version of s_aujp with locations 2000 & 2001.

Let's say that I have "Raw" selected in the bin, and I wish to select for use "WB AFR (LC-1 0-5V Raw)" in the TunerportRT Dash.....

would it then be ok to have the following settings:
-Loc 2000, NOTHING is set.
-Loc 2001, WB OPT 2, bit 0, RAW A/D OUTPUT is "SET"
-Loc 2001, WB OPT 2, bit 7, Input "A3", Else "F14" is set as appropriate.
-On the TunerportRT dash use: WB (LC-1 0-5V Raw)

Am I getting this?

 

i think i fixed the pic
i am having other issues
i'll start a new thread on trying to get the car
to not be in limp mode

 

Correct, the original version was program ID = 1024 and last version is 1026
Can be confirmed by looking at your bin at location 8000 and 8001.
The locations of the option words was moved in the 1026 version.
There is a document and an XDF with each of the bins.

Just set the scaling in the ADS to match what you have programmed in your LC-1 and your good to go.
There's an item in the ADS that I called "WB AFR (LC-1 0-5V Raw)"
Indicates AFR when using the WB Patch RAW option 0-5V = 7.35-22.39 :1
That was the default output scaling from the LC-1 I had.

Here are the settings I used in case you don't use the file supplied.
Dash will turn red because of alarm values >15 or <12.

 

I'll try and get this done today. I will also ensure that all my grounds are common.
The settings in my ALDL file look the same as yours so it should work once I set the bin up properly.

 

for my LC-1?

IF I'm just using the raw data from the LC-1?

 

WB OPT 2, bit 0, RAW A/D OUTPUT is "SET"


The WB stuff has two overall options:

Use the WB code to make the output 10 to 20:1 readout
Select the appropriate sensor and point of wiring

Use the ADS to make the conversion to AFR readout
Use RAW option and point of wiring

 

SO, I'd like to ask some specific questions...perhaps I'll catch on:
In the following statement "Use the WB code to make the output 10 to 20:1 readout", does that mean that we just have to make the necessary adjustments within the BIN? If so, then I understand that.

In this 2nd statement "Use the ADS to make the conversion to AFR readout"
I'm not sure what this means? By the ADS do you mean that we should "edit ALDL datatream definition"? Well, if so, and it matches ok, with the previous example you provided in post #13, then I also did that.

Just trying to ensure that I'm doing this correctly. I've done the 2 things above and made sure all my grounds share a commone point.

Nevertheless, do I need to "SET" WB OPT1, BIT 5 just because I'm using the LC-1? OR, do I leave that blank when using raw data?

Thx for all the pointers.

 

You are really over thinking this.

The WB "Code" that was written and integrated into the V4 allows the different WBs to be read. The "Code" can use the linear or non-linear output of each of the types of WB. They each have different output scaling setup by the respective makers. Some are simple linear while others are a curve.

ALL OF THEM WILL BE CONVERTED TO 10-20:1 AFR
(by the code if selected)
Output will be in the "STD" ALDL $8D datastream so ANY logging program can read the value correctly.

IF, IF, IF you do not want to use the code to calculate the AFR...
(or you have a WB that is not directly listed as an option)
YOU can just get "counts" from the analog input fed back out the ALDL stream. That is called "RAW" data.

To make "RAW" data mean something you must scale it to some kind of units. In this case it would be AFR.
0 to 5 volts = 0 to 255 steps in a linear output.

What ever your WB is set to output you can read it using the RAW function and then using your "ALDL software" to make the conversion for you.
You could make a simple formula for the linear type of output or create a lookup table for each of the 255 steps if needed to show what the reading should be.

Some (most) ALDL software will not allow you to have a custom calculation on the output data so this may or may not work for you.

Jp

 

What is the reference fuel for the AFR (100% gas, E10, etc) ?

Suppose one is running E10, then would they do a (14.13/14.7) to the ALDL reported AFR value?

 

AFAIK it gas only.
On the LC-1 that can be adjusted in the programming of the controller itself.
Not sure on the others.
That's a good example of where the raw output value could be made to read anything that the std controller setups don't.

 

I guess I don't have to anything with that WB OPT1, BIT 5.

I must have something else going on because my air/fuel ratio goes opposite my BLM rich and lean values.

I'll try to chase that down this weekend.