Programmer ?
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Programmer ?
Is the Moates Burn II programmer the same as a chip programmer or a real time programmer or do they have totally different purposes?
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Re: Programmer ?
The Burn 2 is an EPROM programmer, meaning it can read and program the EPROMs it has been designed to work with.
It is not an EPROM emulator, which is what would be needed for real time tuning. The Ostrich 2.0 is a great EPROM emulator.
It is not an EPROM emulator, which is what would be needed for real time tuning. The Ostrich 2.0 is a great EPROM emulator.
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Re: Programmer ?
The Burn 2 is the go between for the EPROM and my laptop? The emulator is a program that runs on my laptop and sends the information through the Burn 2 to the EPROM? I'm I beginning to understand this? Thanks for your help. I'll be looking up Ostrich 2.0 EPROM emulator now.
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Re: Programmer ?
I guess that's a way to look at it. It is a piece of hardware that is used to program the EPROM.
Not at all. From this statement I would have to assume you're a gamer, that uses "emulators" for Nintendo and other game systems on your computer. 
An Emulator, as in the Ostrich 2.0 (and similar devices), is a piece of hardware and is plugged in in place of an EPROM in the ECM, and allows changes to the bin file while the engine is running.
The program needed for the Burn 2 is called "Flash and burn", and is what is used to open the bin file into the buffer and then used to operate with the burn2. It is also used to read an EPROM. I believe that Tuner Pro can also be used with a Burn 2, but I can't personally verify this.
The emulator is a program that runs on my laptop and sends the information through the Burn 2 to the EPROM?

An Emulator, as in the Ostrich 2.0 (and similar devices), is a piece of hardware and is plugged in in place of an EPROM in the ECM, and allows changes to the bin file while the engine is running.
The program needed for the Burn 2 is called "Flash and burn", and is what is used to open the bin file into the buffer and then used to operate with the burn2. It is also used to read an EPROM. I believe that Tuner Pro can also be used with a Burn 2, but I can't personally verify this.
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Re: Programmer ?
I guess that's a way to look at it. It is a piece of hardware that is used to program the EPROM.
Not at all. From this statement I would have to assume you're a gamer, that uses "emulators" for Nintendo and other game systems on your computer.
An Emulator, as in the Ostrich 2.0 (and similar devices), is a piece of hardware and is plugged in in place of an EPROM in the ECM, and allows changes to the bin file while the engine is running.
The program needed for the Burn 2 is called "Flash and burn", and is what is used to open the bin file into the buffer and then used to operate with the burn2. It is also used to read an EPROM. I believe that Tuner Pro can also be used with a Burn 2, but I can't personally verify this.
Not at all. From this statement I would have to assume you're a gamer, that uses "emulators" for Nintendo and other game systems on your computer.

An Emulator, as in the Ostrich 2.0 (and similar devices), is a piece of hardware and is plugged in in place of an EPROM in the ECM, and allows changes to the bin file while the engine is running.
The program needed for the Burn 2 is called "Flash and burn", and is what is used to open the bin file into the buffer and then used to operate with the burn2. It is also used to read an EPROM. I believe that Tuner Pro can also be used with a Burn 2, but I can't personally verify this.
Questions:
1) If using the Ostrich 2.0 emulator wood still need to use the Burn 2 that I have?
2) What are the actual components I need to program my EPROM?
3) What would be the sequence of events I would need to do in order to program the EPROM?
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Re: Programmer ?
2) What are the actual components I need to program my EPROM?

3) What would be the sequence of events I would need to do in order to program the EPROM?
-I plug the programmer into my laptop, open the program, wait for it to initialize and give me the go a head to place an EPROM in the ZIF socket.
-Insert the EPROM in the ZIF socket.
-Select the proper EPROM from the menu.
-Set the offset
-Browse to and open the bin file I want.
-Click "Burn"
-Wait about 5 seconds
-Remove EPOM from the ZIF socket.
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Re: Programmer ?
I've been using Transtronics Pocket Romulator mounted directly on to the ECM going on 5 years now. I started with Tunercat/RT, and then TunerPro RT.
With constant tweaking, burning chips is a waste of time for me, not to mention having to remove and replace the chip (results in loose sockets, bent pins...etc.)
On the Romulator serial port I have a USB cable permanently attached, I just connect to the Laptop, TP automatically connects to it, and with the Moates ALDL converter I monitor, datalog then tune, I'm just so happy with this stuff, burning a chip is the furthest thing from my mind.
With constant tweaking, burning chips is a waste of time for me, not to mention having to remove and replace the chip (results in loose sockets, bent pins...etc.)
On the Romulator serial port I have a USB cable permanently attached, I just connect to the Laptop, TP automatically connects to it, and with the Moates ALDL converter I monitor, datalog then tune, I'm just so happy with this stuff, burning a chip is the furthest thing from my mind.
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