Running Differences Emulating vs Chip
Running Differences Emulating vs Chip
I'm new at this... Last night I used Tunerpro 5 to burn a chip. It all worked well. Then I got adventurous and wanted to emulate it. So I plugged the APU1 in and started the vehicle with the same bin that I just burned.
Immediately I notice a difference. Under emulation, the idle oscillates. I get knock under moderate throttle, but the acceleration response is better.
I can't use the emulation mode if I don't get identical results to the chip.
Has anyone seen this before? What can I do to fix it?
Thanks.
Immediately I notice a difference. Under emulation, the idle oscillates. I get knock under moderate throttle, but the acceleration response is better.
I can't use the emulation mode if I don't get identical results to the chip.
Has anyone seen this before? What can I do to fix it?
Thanks.
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Re: Running Differences Emulating vs Chip
Make sure that the APU1 isn't placing a 10K resistor between pins A & B on the ALDL connector.
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Re: Running Differences Emulating vs Chip
Did you upload bin to emulater while open in TunerPro? Veify? Enable emulation? Then start car.
Usage
Real-Time Tuning / Emulation
1. Make sure car is in key-off position with no power to the ECM. Remove the ‘stock’ chip and install socket adapter (G1 or G2) if not already present. Remove any chip from the AutoProm ZIF socket!
2.Hook the 28-pin ribbon cable header to the ECM chip adapter socket. Make sure the ‘red’ wire points toward where the notch, or Pin1, would be on a chip normally going in the socket. The AutoProm will auto-select its power source from either the USB port or the ECM header.
3.Get your PC powered on with TunerPro or TunerCat loaded up. Hook USB cable up to the AutoProm and PC. Check the AutoProm switch positions along the backpanel. The innermost horizontal switch can be positioned either inboard (10k – used to select data initiation on older-model vehicles like the MAF TPI) or outboard (open A-B – almost everything else) depending on ECM requirements. The outer horizontal switch should be in the ‘towards the USB port’ position. (APU1 mode. Other position is passthrough mode, identical to ALDU1).
4.If you haven’t already loaded a file onto the AutoProm, you will get an SES light condition indicating bad PROM content. Now is the time to go ahead and initialize the AutoProm from the PC software (should be under ‘Emulation, Initialize’ option). Once initialized, load the desired binary file into the PC software and upload it to the AutoProm (option should be right next to the ‘Initialize’ button). You may want to select the ‘Verify’ option (in TunerPro) to ensure that the binary upload was successful. If you keyed the vehicle on without a valid binary loaded, you may need to cycle the key off for about 20 seconds to let the ECM reset.
5.At this point, you should have the AutoProm loaded with the desired binary file. The car should now respond as though a chip with the uploaded binary content is installed. If not, then there is an issue. Either the binary is corrupt or some other condition exists.
6. From the PC software, you can make on-the-fly changes in the BIN content and have those changes immediately transferred to the AutoProm and the car should respond accordingly. There are several options within the supporting PC software, such as ‘Checksum Disable’, ‘Upload Entire Tables’, ‘Update Checksum’, and ‘Keep Item Open’, etc., so read through the documentation and practice a little bit so you understand what is going on and what to select. Typically, checksum disable or update checksum should be selected. Use a setting of “AA at 08” for 28 pin applications, and “AA at 04” for 24 pin ECMs.
Real-Time Tuning / Emulation
1. Make sure car is in key-off position with no power to the ECM. Remove the ‘stock’ chip and install socket adapter (G1 or G2) if not already present. Remove any chip from the AutoProm ZIF socket!
2.Hook the 28-pin ribbon cable header to the ECM chip adapter socket. Make sure the ‘red’ wire points toward where the notch, or Pin1, would be on a chip normally going in the socket. The AutoProm will auto-select its power source from either the USB port or the ECM header.
3.Get your PC powered on with TunerPro or TunerCat loaded up. Hook USB cable up to the AutoProm and PC. Check the AutoProm switch positions along the backpanel. The innermost horizontal switch can be positioned either inboard (10k – used to select data initiation on older-model vehicles like the MAF TPI) or outboard (open A-B – almost everything else) depending on ECM requirements. The outer horizontal switch should be in the ‘towards the USB port’ position. (APU1 mode. Other position is passthrough mode, identical to ALDU1).
4.If you haven’t already loaded a file onto the AutoProm, you will get an SES light condition indicating bad PROM content. Now is the time to go ahead and initialize the AutoProm from the PC software (should be under ‘Emulation, Initialize’ option). Once initialized, load the desired binary file into the PC software and upload it to the AutoProm (option should be right next to the ‘Initialize’ button). You may want to select the ‘Verify’ option (in TunerPro) to ensure that the binary upload was successful. If you keyed the vehicle on without a valid binary loaded, you may need to cycle the key off for about 20 seconds to let the ECM reset.
5.At this point, you should have the AutoProm loaded with the desired binary file. The car should now respond as though a chip with the uploaded binary content is installed. If not, then there is an issue. Either the binary is corrupt or some other condition exists.
6. From the PC software, you can make on-the-fly changes in the BIN content and have those changes immediately transferred to the AutoProm and the car should respond accordingly. There are several options within the supporting PC software, such as ‘Checksum Disable’, ‘Upload Entire Tables’, ‘Update Checksum’, and ‘Keep Item Open’, etc., so read through the documentation and practice a little bit so you understand what is going on and what to select. Typically, checksum disable or update checksum should be selected. Use a setting of “AA at 08” for 28 pin applications, and “AA at 04” for 24 pin ECMs.
Re: Running Differences Emulating vs Chip
I did not verify the emulated bin, but I did verify the chip.
I followed the instructions to the best of my ability.
The only thing I was not sure about was the 10k mode or not.
I'll be playing with it more this weekend.
I followed the instructions to the best of my ability.
The only thing I was not sure about was the 10k mode or not.
I'll be playing with it more this weekend.
Re: Running Differences Emulating vs Chip
ads is a TunerPro V4 file and needs to be imported into TunerPro V5. There's also a couple files on TP website that do not work and I don't know if they have been updated.
There are the new ADX files that all work as well as old ads files and much newer XDF along with a bunch of $OD stuff here:
http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...Information-OD
There are the new ADX files that all work as well as old ads files and much newer XDF along with a bunch of $OD stuff here:
http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...Information-OD
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