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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 09:55 AM
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Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

So how does this table work?

I did a search but it wasn't clear to me from reading...

JP86SS had posted an excel file back in '07, but the link appears to be broken...

http://www.wideopenwest.com/~Johnand..._TABLES_8D.xls
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

The value is subtracted from the three O2 window threshold tables. The fast R/L, then the lower and the upper slow O2 tables.

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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 08:05 PM
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

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The value is subtracted from the three O2 window threshold tables. The fast R/L, then the lower and the upper slow O2 tables.

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RBob thanks. The value of the entries in the table are in "counts". Does that imply that one count is equal to 1 mV?
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 09:14 AM
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

It uses the same conversion equation as the three O2 window tables.

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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 06:28 PM
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

RBob, thanks very much for the prompt replies!!
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 11:17 AM
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

My ISP decided to remove my site for some unknown reason.
The spreadsheet is included in the S_AUJP V4 package if you would like to play with it.
Gives a good visual reference to the three table values (+coolant table) and the window setting also.
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

Thanks, I'll take a look!
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

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It uses the same conversion equation as the three O2 window tables.

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I'm trying to find these again and am running into a brick wall...

Anyone have this conversion equation to convert the counts to O2 mV?
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 07:33 AM
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

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I'm trying to find these again and am running into a brick wall...

Anyone have this conversion equation to convert the counts to O2 mV?
ADC = O2 VOLTS * 226

O2 mV = ADC * 4.42

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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

Thanks!!

So 1 count is equal to 4.42 mV.
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

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Thanks!!

So 1 count is equal to 4.42 mV.
Yes, the two equations are just the inverse of each other. Only one being in volts and the other in milli-volts. I just quickly pulled them from the hac.

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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

I NEED TO FIX THAT !!!
The Coolant modifier I have is configured to use mV (not "counts")
Each of the 3 columns formulas must change to be:
L84AB "Lower" first cell: from =C11-K11 to =C11-(K11*4.42)

Do the same for L84B4 "MEAN", and L84A2 UPPER columns.




I'll post up a new and improved version.
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

JP, thanks!

The three tables I"m showing on ANHT are

1.) Fast O2 R/L threshold vs MAP

2.) Upper zero error reference for slow O2 vs MAP

3.) Lower zero error reference for slow O2 vs MAP

Are these the same as the ones you're referencing?

Also, what do "fast" and "slow" mean here?

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Old Jun 21, 2015 | 12:04 PM
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

From memory...
Fast was read from the input with very little or no filter applied.
Slow was filtered to smooth out the reaction.
Each is used differently but I don't recall exactly which one does what.

I set that sheet up by following RBob's white paper.
The good explanation is in there. Need to refresh...
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Old Jul 5, 2015 | 11:40 PM
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

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ADC = O2 VOLTS * 226

O2 mV = ADC * 4.42

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RBob, are these counts the same as the MAT compensation counts? Such that it offsets the O2 voltage the same way and the same equations apply there as well?
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

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RBob, are these counts the same as the MAT compensation counts? Such that it offsets the O2 voltage the same way and the same equations apply there as well?
The table at $84F6, yes, same equation. However, that table is based on CTS not MAT.

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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

Originally Posted by RBob
The table at $84F6, yes, same equation. However, that table is based on CTS not MAT.

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Ah, so the table is mislabled?
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 02:08 PM
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

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Ah, so the table is mislabled?
I take it the ECU/XDF has it as a MAT table? The ANHT .pdf hac has it listed as coolant, which is about the earliest source for $8D.

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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 02:33 PM
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Re: Rich/Lean Offset vs Coolant (AUJP)

It's labeled MAT in $8D in tunercat and I believe tunerpro as well.
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