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thanks

 

oops

 

hmmm

 

Considering you have a post just below relating to your headlight motors.. you'd think I would have figured that out huh ?

82-4 and 85-6 all used the 3 relay system. I don't remember, but, I think there was a small revision to the housing/motor in 85-6. I don't know what it was though
87-up changed completely and started using a single headlight relay module that controlled both motors and in mounted on the firewall.

edit.. I just remembered this site. It has some good information about the lights (even though it's on a fiero.. they used the same motors)

http://home.t-online.de/home/O_Scholz/headlight.html

 

how can i figure that out if i have never seen any motors newer than 84 ?? i have no clue if they did change them let laone how they changed them
good site/page link there, cool

they make no mention of 82 83 motors, howcome ??
are they different from 84-86 also ?


thanks

 

I believe '82-'83 motors used 4 wires, then in '84 they switched to 3. They make no mention of the '82-'83 motors on the Fiero site cause there were no Fieros till '84.

Matt

 

oh, interesting, so we can assume 82-86 are all same then ?

i think it was three wire early and then 2 wire later, at least thats what i been seeing in searches i think

 

Yes, for the most part all '82-'86 motors are the same. With the exception that the number of wires may be different. That can probably be fixed by splicing wires into each other.

Just so you know: I heard the 4 wire thing from somewhere on these boards or from some retailer when I was going to purchase a new headlight motor for my car. I vaguely remember seeing a pic of a 4 wire unit or reading about it somewhere.
I have yet to see a '82 or '83 Firebird or Trans Am. So I believe there are 4 wires, but that may be wrong.

Anybody care to clarify this for me? I'd like to know for sure.

Matt

 

its 3 on early ones and 2 on later ones, no such thing as four wire motors

what i dont understand is why my driver side motor third wire is dark blue and someone spliced white wire to it, and pass side motor is white wire correct no splicing

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...ht+motor+wires

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...ht+motor+wires

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...ht+motor+wires

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...ht+motor+wires

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=126586

 

One of your headlight motors was probably swapped for a fiero motor which have different plugs but are otherwise direct replacements I should know I put firebird motors on my fiero when I had it.

 

the relay plug is same one the blue wire motor, but just has the separate third wire being blue,

so firebird motors third wire is white and fiero are blue, right ?

these two motors are completely identical in evetry way i can see except are reversed as far as output shaft placement, event he silver stickers with partnumbers are in same place and everything on both motors.

thanks

 

Fast.. I can't much help you with the motor identity due to not owning a 'bird in your year range but, I can somewhat help you with wiring identity. Here's a general diagram of how your car "should" be wired (am I nice or what ... lol )....

 

That sounds about right but it has been about five years since I worked on the headlight motors on my fiero but I know the plugs are different but being the fiero unit has one wire on a seperate plug and I belive it is blue but I remove the cover from the motor compared where the wires where and spliced the accordingly.

 

thanks guys, i appreciate it

 

Back from the dead...

Is there an easy way to wire up 3-wire headlight motors to a 2-wire control box / harness? Maybe a couple diodes or something?

-Craig