Does anyone have a video of the windows going up and down on a car with good window motors? I heard that even good ones are slow, just want to have something to compare them with so I will know if I should get new ones. I think this would also be helpful for many other people

 

no video but I have heard the same.
My firebird has very slow window speed lol

 

They are slow. Cleaning the tracks with WD-40 and relubing with white grease will help the speed some--do the door locks as well.

JamesC

 

my windows are slow.
about 7 seconds from open to closed.

why do the locks matter?
incedentally, my power locks blow a fuse every time i try and use them...
got tired of replacing fuses so i have manual locks now

 

Where the windows are concerned, they don't. If, however, the locks are slow and/or if locking requires several hits of the button, cleaning will cure the problem.

Since you'll be in the door anyway, check the link:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/body...servation.html

JamesC

 

My power windows go up and down slow too, I just spared some WD40 on the track's and it did help a little.

I don't think they where meant to go any faster than that.

 

yeah I had the drivers door apart to put a new handle on, and everything looked very clean in there, but i put a little wd 40 on there and the drivers window is just a little faster then the passenger. They do take about 7-10 seconds to go up or down, I just don't want to have the motor go out when i have to park the car somewhere and have the window stuck open

 

I've seen (somewhere on TGO, videos & all) how a guy upgraded his wiring & increased the voltage to the motors, and the windows were QUICK afterwards. Very nice.

 

stephen, I will probably check into that later when I have some extra $$$. I wanna make the windows open a 1/2 in when the door is open so when you close the door it closes nicely, and then goes back up when the door is shut, but thats a long way down the road yet for me.

 

Right, I noticed the same thing with my windows and wondered if the motors were going bad. Though.... my power locks don't work, they sound like they're trying, but don't do a thing..... I never really considered that a problem, just have to remember to lock her up.

 

Should you ever be in the door panel, clean them and they'll work as designed.

JamesC

 

I wonder if we could also swap in 4th gen window motors..(since we can swap in their door panels)..

 

i know the new generation of mustangs have this feature. I wonder if you could order the relay from a dealer or find one in a junkyard. If you find a way to do this post a thread because I would be interested for sure.

 

I was thinking about this, and it would probably be very complicated. You would need power for the window when the ign. is off, then maybe have a switch on each door handle inside and out, that opens it a half inch, then it closes again after the switch for the lights is off for two seconds. I'm gonna try to find out how it is done on the mustangs.

 

ya mine too i remeber years back g-body cars had the same problem and the a-body motor fit to make them faster,i think ill try to fit up some different motors and see if any fit

 

the switch would be the door handle... You would wire it to a delay timer so the window would go back up after 5 or 10 seconds. Whatever you want. There are plenty of power sources when the ign is off.
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Edit: just thought, you could put it so the switch to go down is the door handle and the switch to go up is the latch. That or a switch in the hinge

 

I'll probably just leave it alone for now as I have to get some things paid off and do some other more important work on the car.
I was reading that the mustangs, which require the window to be open a little to open or close the door have problems when they get ice on them and don't open. Our third gens wouldn't have a problem with that though as they were designed to be opened and closed without the window moving, and I plan on parking it every winter.

 

I was rented a Mitsubishi Eclipse on a business trip that had this feature also. To me it looked like it kept the glass from hitting the roof line while the door was being opened/closed. Maybe the same reason for the Mustangs???

 

back to my original post, does anyone have a video or know where to find one of the windows going up or down?

 

Ill try this weekend,to get a video and post it if im not working.

 

Cool, then I'll have something to compare them to on my car.

 

Hey skiroultx447 sorry i didnt get a chance this past weekend to get u that video,But i just made one but is late here and its alittle dark but i hope this will help u

 

Mine are slow as well.

 

about the window closing when door does thing. i'm pretty sure some BMW's do this aswell

 

Hi :

Today was surfing in youtube , and i saw this video. This video isn't mine , but these go up and down , soft and nice .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOMYSgQOjO0

ppl, more videos to share ? is this guy in thirdgen ?

greetz

 

My windows are alot slower then that... Looks like I need new motors soon.

 

the 4th gen motors are worse than ours, i have a 01 ta also, they are slow,there is a fix for them and a kit, but basically they way i see it is that it is a relay or relays powered straight from battery voltage, drivers and passenger.

 

The new 2010 Camaros come with this feature as well. It's supposed to make an air tight seal so there is less wind noise.

 

Is it really a problem of power getting to the window motors ? If these things had a direct connect to the battery, would it help at all? I can't see that this would be wise. Where was that thread about increasing the window speed ?

JamesC , this seems to be amongst your proficiencies, do you think that their is a solution for existing motors ?

 

I've posted this a few times as well.These cars are getting older in a sense that weatherstripping becomes dry and will slow a window down.If your not in the market to buy new seals,you can buy some silicone spray at the parts store and spray the window weatherstrip pieces,this is a good temporary fix.

As James said,you should also put some white grease on the tracks as well,this will also prolong the life of your window motor.

 

I find it diffiuclt to believe that a thirdgen motor, new or otherwise, will ever rival those in new cars--the windows in my Altima 3.5 SE Coupe will go up and down a half dozen times while the old IROC windows are still puttering downward. I like the idea of a one-touch, up and down. Here's something that might make thirdgen life easier:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS..._1026_41991-20

Here's the link that members recall, I think:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...otors-i-4.html

JamesC

 

The Fiero guys have found that just better grounding the doors help alot. Also they use lithium grease or something like that to help the tracks. I resecured my drivers side window motor and it is like 3 times faster than the passenger side (gonna fix that).

Find a good ground location on the body of the car and run a good ground wire through the molex and ground the door. While the panel is off clean all the surfaces and moving parts then use some sort or lithium grease. While cleaning got after the motor connections and clean them out and the switch. The windows should be alot faster.

 

Every bit of maintenance and extra wiring will help for the window speed. Mine are slow too and I measure down to 7 Volts on the motors when they run. I guesstimate that a good lube job plus a relay kit would almost triple their speed..

 

A little maintenance goes along way with these window motors.The easier they glide the less likely you are to burn the motor out too

 

making sure they get enough power is important too.
just upgraded the wiring coming directly off the battery and my windows started going up a bit quicker.
also, my votmeter never drops below 13 any more.
it used to go from around 12 to 13.5, but now it sits at 13.5 - 14 no matter what

 

James are you suggesting that we start hunting for window motors from newer cars ? Do you think it could be retrofitted from something like a new suburban or silverado or is their something proprietary about the window motors that might prevent this ?

 

I'd think that that wold be an option, but what might fit and what might have to be done is a mystery to me.

JamesC

 

That first option is pretty nice. Doesn't do anything for the window speed, but one-touch operation is neat. I have one installed with my alarm system, it effectively converts the switches to one-touch operation or press and hold to partial roll-up/roll-down. Only down side if if that module ever fails, you are without power windows until you either remove the install or fix it.