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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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4th gen Clock Spring in 3rd gen Column?

Okay... been doing a lot of searches on TGO.

I want put a 4th gen steering wheel in my 91 FB. But not just for looks!!! I want the steering wheel controls to work (I have a 4th gen radio) and I want the air bag to work. So I can't just attach the 4th gen wheel to my 3rd gen column. Wiring issues.

I've been researching replacing the 3rg gen column for a 4th gen, but there is the fitment issue and I can't find a conclusive answer on whether the turn signal etc. wiring will work.

So.. the next choice is... will a 4th gen clock spring go in a 3rd gen column?

That way I can have a functioning air bag and can make my own harness to go from the clock spring to the radio.

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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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Re: 4th gen Clock Spring in 3rd gen Column?

You wont have a working air bag by putting a 4th gen steering wheel or column in a 3rd gen car. You will need sensors, air bag module, harness and related parts. Not worth doing or unless it came equipped in the car from the factory which a 91 did. I doubt that the clock spring will fit in the column either since the columns are different. There's more things deal with to get radio steering wheel contols to work in the car also. Overall to me, not worth doing. Could be lots of problems.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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Re: 4th gen Clock Spring in 3rd gen Column?

Thanks jermdm... would anyone else like to contribute?

I just received a 4th gen steering column, it looks so similar to the 3rd gen they could be interchangeable (other than the output shaft being longer, I read about that)...

If it turns out I can't install it, I would still be interested in putting the 4th gen clock spring in the 3rd gen column... I really want my airbag and radio controls working
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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Re: 4th gen Clock Spring in 3rd gen Column?

Well I've now got a 4th gen clock spring in my 3rd gen column. They are a slightly different shape on the outside perimeter but it still fit. I meant to take a picture of the two springs but I forgot!!!

Well now to get the wires hooked back up...
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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Re: 4th gen Clock Spring in 3rd gen Column?

I hate to ask this... but is there any chance you could test the air bag out to be sure it'll work?

I have been wanting a different wheel but I want to keep the bag, my stocker wont look fight in my all black retro style interior anyway.

I know taking a bat to the front end of your car and setting off the bags proabably wont sound appealing but if you could atleast sheck the computer for any malfunction codes I would apreciate it.
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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Re: 4th gen Clock Spring in 3rd gen Column?

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I hate to ask this... but is there any chance you could test the air bag out to be sure it'll work?
Hmmm... I have no idea how to do that... I don't have any diagnostic equipment and don't really have access to any... I suppose the next time I have it inspected I could ask to see if there are codes and let you know... but all I was planning to do was hook the cables back up and make sure the "INFL REST" light in the cluster goes off... that would be good enough for me...
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Re: 4th gen Clock Spring in 3rd gen Column?

You can find a how-to on the forum to show you how to pull any codes using a paperclip but I whould be satisfied enough to try it my self if you report that your light went out.

Mine has been on since I bought the car so I guess I wouldnt be any worse off even if it didnt work but I really would rather not die if I can help it and I was taught a healthy respect for the srs system and it's forbidden yellow harness lol. If I could avoid ever touching the stuff I would.
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Re: 4th gen Clock Spring in 3rd gen Column?

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You can find a how-to on the forum to show you how to pull any codes using a paperclip
i know about this trick and used it to diagnose my MAT sensor issue (code 23).found it not even plugged in. i thought you meant something more intensive. if i get any usual gauge lights i will post. cheers Tom
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Re: 4th gen Clock Spring in 3rd gen Column?

I've got a similar interest in getting radio control on the steering wheel and the clock spring is the main obstacle. Sounds like you were successful. Any chance you took some pics? Anyone else try this?
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Re: 4th gen Clock Spring in 3rd gen Column?

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I've got a similar interest in getting radio control on the steering wheel and the clock spring is the main obstacle. Sounds like you were successful. Any chance you took some pics? Anyone else try this?
Hi G70,

You may need to keep searching for different threads on this, the member your asking the question of was banned back in 2016....

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Re: 4th gen Clock Spring in 3rd gen Column?

Originally Posted by G70
I've got a similar interest in getting radio control on the steering wheel and the clock spring is the main obstacle. Sounds like you were successful. Any chance you took some pics? Anyone else try this?
You can use the column and wheel and radio from a controls, no bag 'bird to fit your IROC. The parts will retro in other GM columns.
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