VAT blanks
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Car: 92 RS
Engine: 3.1 V6
Transmission: 700R4
VAT blanks
Hello,
I have two questions:
1.) I thank it's the vat system acting up on my 92 rs. I tried the key and it said security on it i tried like four more times in a row and heard a ship like bell ring, a deep "dink" and after that the battery was dead. Could i have killed the battery from trying to start the car to soon and too many times after the security warning?
2.)Has any body bought a blank vat key from on-line? I just wanted to get it from someone that knows what there doing i would hate to get stuck with the wrong key.
Thanks
I have two questions:
1.) I thank it's the vat system acting up on my 92 rs. I tried the key and it said security on it i tried like four more times in a row and heard a ship like bell ring, a deep "dink" and after that the battery was dead. Could i have killed the battery from trying to start the car to soon and too many times after the security warning?
2.)Has any body bought a blank vat key from on-line? I just wanted to get it from someone that knows what there doing i would hate to get stuck with the wrong key.
Thanks
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From: close to Wichita Kansas
Car: '91 RS CP now is the son's driver
Engine: CP =3.1, will get V-8 maybe someday
Transmission: stock
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi W/ disks
Re: VAT blanks
go to GM and avoid the hastle or get rid of the system entirly, "although not advised", and no you should not have killed your battery, unless it was on the way out any way
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Car: 1992 RS
Engine: Carbed 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Re: VAT blanks
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(and taking the time to read the posts that a search provides) would yield all your answers, but while I'm here:
If the VATS system doesn't get the correct resistance value from the ignition switch, then the car won't start - it won't crank or anything. Lights will all work, but no crank. VATS will not kill a battery - just no crank. If battery dead, then you have another issue. There is a 5 minute delay period where if the VATS system gets the wrong signal, then the no crank will remain for a 5 minute delay.
The ignition switch has two tiny spring-loaded tabs inside the switch - these press against the pellet on the key and get the resistance value for the VATS system.
It can happen that the spring-loaded tabs don't "spring" anymore, thus the pellet doesn't make contact, and the value isn't read. Usually you can look closely while inserting the key and see if this is the case. The fix - get a new ignition switch, install, and have a new key made to match the cut of the new switch, but also match the resistance of the old key. Or, bypass the VATS and call it a day.
VATS keys - get them at any ACE Hardware - they are $25 (much much cheaper than dealer), and readily available at all ACE Hardware stores.
For more on VATS,
VATS, and read the tech article located on left panel from the TGO main page.
(and taking the time to read the posts that a search provides) would yield all your answers, but while I'm here:If the VATS system doesn't get the correct resistance value from the ignition switch, then the car won't start - it won't crank or anything. Lights will all work, but no crank. VATS will not kill a battery - just no crank. If battery dead, then you have another issue. There is a 5 minute delay period where if the VATS system gets the wrong signal, then the no crank will remain for a 5 minute delay.
The ignition switch has two tiny spring-loaded tabs inside the switch - these press against the pellet on the key and get the resistance value for the VATS system.
It can happen that the spring-loaded tabs don't "spring" anymore, thus the pellet doesn't make contact, and the value isn't read. Usually you can look closely while inserting the key and see if this is the case. The fix - get a new ignition switch, install, and have a new key made to match the cut of the new switch, but also match the resistance of the old key. Or, bypass the VATS and call it a day.
VATS keys - get them at any ACE Hardware - they are $25 (much much cheaper than dealer), and readily available at all ACE Hardware stores.
For more on VATS,
VATS, and read the tech article located on left panel from the TGO main page. Re: VAT blanks
Most hardware stores have whichever minimum wage worker isn't busy, cut the keys. It can take several tries before you get a key that actually works. On the flip side, a locksmith is well versed in key cutting, and usually gets the key right the first time. It saves a ton of aggravation.
Your symptoms don't really match VATS... It won't kill your battery, it just keeps the car from starting.
Your symptoms don't really match VATS... It won't kill your battery, it just keeps the car from starting.
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From: Houston, tx
Car: 92 RS
Engine: 3.1 V6
Transmission: 700R4
Re: VAT blanks
[quote=camaronewbie;4392120]A
(and taking the time to read the posts that a search provides) would yield all your answers, but while...
I had searched for "vat blanks" but the only post that came up was from some guy in the UK and he never responded to say if the key he bought from ebay worked. I've read the articles about how to bypass it so many times i can probable do it in my sleep. But I will look in to ACE vats keys.
Thank you for your time
(and taking the time to read the posts that a search provides) would yield all your answers, but while...I had searched for "vat blanks" but the only post that came up was from some guy in the UK and he never responded to say if the key he bought from ebay worked. I've read the articles about how to bypass it so many times i can probable do it in my sleep. But I will look in to ACE vats keys.
Thank you for your time
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