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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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Butt Connector vs Solder Joint

So I've done exactly as Amorget stated; go create another thread on the subject:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/car-...ml#post4741489


Reply with which you guys think is better and why.
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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Re: Butt Connector vs Solder Joint

My take, it all depends on the connector. In the aviation world they use special butt connectors that basically solder, crimp, and seal all in one. However, those cheap butt connections with hard plastic shields that you buy at the local parts store suck.

Personally I always solder/shrink wrap. Butt connectors are bulky and I am not willing to pay over $1 a butt connector for the aviation level butt connectors.
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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Re: Butt Connector vs Solder Joint

Let me clarify by stating that I am not saying butt connectors should NEVER be used. There are times when a solder joint is impractical. But they are such a poor and atiquated way of doing things that I like to use them as least as possible.
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 08:02 PM
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Re: Butt Connector vs Solder Joint

I work in the telecommunication business, about 30-40 years ago we used a solder joint for splices. Now days we use plastic grease filled connectors only because of convenience and speed of splicing. But by far a solder splice is a far Superior splice, especially with a shrink tube on it.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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Re: Butt Connector vs Solder Joint

Bottom line is that crimp connectors will work fine most of the time if you have the right size and good quality butt connector crimped properly with the correct crimp tool set to the right depth and the proper amount / size of wire in the connector. That is a lot of variablility and room for error.

Its OK to crimp your audio connections but not your ignition wire.

See the tech tips at the top of this forum. Really good info there.

Last edited by black85vette; Nov 22, 2010 at 08:48 AM. Reason: Better info in the tech tips already posted
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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Re: Butt Connector vs Solder Joint

a lot of the issue stems from people not having the adequate skill/technique or tools to do the connection correctly. the cheaper crimpers are not going to do a good job at making sure the crimp is secure, leading to failure. However, you get the same issue with soldering - a cold joint is a bad thing too and too easy to do without practice.

I personally prefer a soldered and shrink wrapped connection over a butt connected setup for my important stuff - pcm, ignition, dash, alarm. anything else can go either way depending on what I have available at the time for accessibility, tools, and time.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Re: Butt Connector vs Solder Joint

Originally Posted by 1ADan
a lot of the issue stems from people not having the adequate skill/technique or tools to do the connection correctly. the cheaper crimpers are not going to do a good job at making sure the crimp is secure, leading to failure. However, you get the same issue with soldering - a cold joint is a bad thing too and too easy to do without practice.

I personally prefer a soldered and shrink wrapped connection over a butt connected setup for my important stuff - pcm, ignition, dash, alarm. anything else can go either way depending on what I have available at the time for accessibility, tools, and time.
If you guys go read the thread I posted up until my response that comes after Amorget, the original argument (and I use that term losely) was that a solder joint is an inferior connection because it "oxidizes the wire and creates electrical resistance".

Originally Posted by ca90ss
A proper set of crimpers will cold weld the connection. Heating causes oxidation and oxidized metals have a higher resistance. I wouldn't call spending more time on an inferior connection overkill or quality. Sure, there are times when a soldered connection is better but in your car isn't one of them.
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