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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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simplifying this cars electronics.

What key words can I search for to find threads on how to remove unnecesary wires in this car. and maybe even customize the wiring harnesses? for instance.....i removed my ac, cruise, and wiper washer stuff. The typical stuff i took off now I want to completely get rid of all wires that are not needed. thanks. you guys are thorough, i dont mean to be redundant.
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 08:36 AM
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Re: simplifying this cars electronics.

Originally Posted by crazybird
now I want to completely get rid of all wires that are not needed. t.
Look at the wiring diagrams for your car
http://www.austinthirdgen.org/index.php?pid=19

and remove the appropriate wire(s) from a deleted item back to it's source.
Major job because it means completely dismantling the harness to do so
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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Re: simplifying this cars electronics.

Any no brainer areas I could attack while im studying the diagram? wiring schems arent my bag at all.
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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Re: simplifying this cars electronics.

Originally Posted by crazybird
Any no brainer areas I could attack while im studying the diagram? wiring schems arent my bag at all.
Then dont attempt this project
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 03:33 AM
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Re: simplifying this cars electronics.

I am sorry pocket. Did you miss the question, or do you just enjoy wasting your time filling the computer screen with your opinions?
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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Re: simplifying this cars electronics.

Pocket's very knowledgeable when it comes to wiring on these cars. He may not have sugar coated his message, but the point is valid. wiring is tricky, even to the most skilled mechanics. Without a good understanding of what you're looking at, you may open up a can of worms you can't fix. Having swapped in an lq9 and a 4th gen dash, I'm finding this out first hand.

However, the more you look over the schematics, the clearer your answer will be. The circuits are very modular, but that doesn't mean they don't tie in with other important ones. Any one circuit can come in contact with more than one bulkhead, ground point, and power distribution center. There's no easy front to attack from. Determine what you don't need, find their connection points (I *highly* recommend a helms manual or getting alldata, these cars changed wiring a few times over the years), and go from there.

even after doing all of the above mentioned, and working with members on the boards here, i've still got my own electrical demons to fight with on my dash swap. best of luck with your project.
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 09:25 PM
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Re: simplifying this cars electronics.

AC - relays and related wiring, but it depends on the year of you car. AC shouldn't be hard to track down. Just start at the wires that attach to the compressor and work your way back.

Cruise (at least on my 84) - Mine is vacuumed operated. I just removed the components from under the hood, disconnected the terminals from under the dash, and pulled it out of the firewall. Very easy.

Wiper - a bit more stuff to work through but not too hard.

It's all about tracing wires and disconnect them from the factory pigtails.
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