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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 12:54 PM
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Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

I just changed a fuse that is a 5 and a 15 and a 3 i did this because my rpm gauge and fuel and battery and temp gauge wasn't working but the mph was working so i thought this would help the problem but as soon as i changed out those fuses my rpm gauge flipped all the way to the right when i turned the car on and my fuel gauge went to half and the others were still messed up and my tail lights wouldn't turn off when i'd turn off the car and the car ... i'm not sure what to do ... because i checked the fuses again and the 5 and 3 were still messed up ... i used the tool that lights up ... the one to check the fuses .. i even used the tool to touch the wire from in back of the fuse box but my tool didn't light up so it's like i'm not even getting current through the wires ... i don't now what to do .. i don't know what i did wrong .. is there another fuse box i didn't check ... i don't know what to do please help. thank you. and the wire you see is the way the guy i bought the car from connected the radiator cooling fan


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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 01:07 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

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Are you positive that you put the right fuses back where they're supposed to go?
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui...&sz=w1576-h642
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 01:18 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

there's the picture and yeah on the fuse i'm putting is what the fuse box says to put
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 01:28 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

This is how it looks now with the new fuses i put .. but i don't think i put them on wrong

[IMG]https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui...&sz=w1576-h642[/IMG]

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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 01:38 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

Are the headlights on with the tail lights too? If not then it could just be your brake lights staying on. Check the pedal and the switch behind the pedal that controls them.

Links for your pics aren't working.
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 02:08 PM
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89trying- still no dice on the picture upload. I think it's trying to access your google account which is why it's getting blocked.

What does the car do when it's running? because my gauges will sit at weird places when it's off too but they all 0 out when I turn the key to start it.
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 02:24 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

well i found the problem. you were right. the switch to the brake was off so the button was't being pushed. Thanks, but the fuse 5 and 3 still don't work. what do they power? and my other gauges still don't work only the mph still does. Would you guys know the problem?
Thanks.
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

and my brakes lights seem a little dim now but i don't know if it might just be because it's in the day light...
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 02:28 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

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and my brakes lights seem a little dim now but i don't know if it might just be because it's in the day light...
glad you figured it out. probably just the daylight.

I'm not near my car at the moment so I'm not sure what those go to. If you do a search for "fuse diagram" or something similar I think you might find what you need.
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 02:42 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

Can you search one for me, and send me a link? I'm trying to find on but i can't.
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 02:48 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

Sure. check this out, just scroll down to 1989:

http://www.austinthirdgen.org/?pid=19

also this:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/faq-...-diagrams.html
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 03:00 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

Thank you, and hey how did you get your fixed up so nice? i got mine from some guy that miss treated it and broke so many things, and it's been really hard to fix it up. i paid $2400, and have put in about $2000 and still needs lot more. A mecannic told me a lot of vaccums don'y work so he said he had to cancel them out but i don't even know were theyu are at and now i'm seeing oil leak from the engine around the intake maifold and the bottom of the engine but i check the oil level with the stick think and it said it was full but it smelld like gas. i don't know what to do. people keep telling me to give up and sale the car but i really love this car and i don't want to give up. i want to make this car run good. i wonna get it running right and look good. i wonna fix it up. I don't know what to do. my dad is already out of the picture. he said he doesn't to help me at all with anything because he has to spend time with his knew wife. what should i do?
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 03:06 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

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Thank you, and hey how did you get your fixed up so nice? i got mine from some guy that miss treated it and broke so many things, and it's been really hard to fix it up. i paid $2400, and have put in about $2000 and still needs lot more. A mecannic told me a lot of vaccums don'y work so he said he had to cancel them out but i don't even know were theyu are at and now i'm seeing oil leak from the engine around the intake maifold and the bottom of the engine but i check the oil level with the stick think and it said it was full but it smelld like gas. i don't know what to do. people keep telling me to give up and sale the car but i really love this car and i don't want to give up. i want to make this car run good. i wonna get it running right and look good. i wonna fix it up. I don't know what to do. my dad is already out of the picture. he said he doesn't to help me at all with anything because he has to spend time with his knew wife. what should i do?
Thanks, I appreciate the complement. Truth is, it got this way from 7-8 years of work(most of which came from my Father), and it's still got a ways to go (it's currently 3 different shades of black...so I need to paint it lol). here's what it started as: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/memb...injection.html

interior(I've since put different seats and carpet in but haven't updated pics): https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...storation.html

It just takes time and money and perseverance. Take baby steps and just keep your end goal in mind. If your car isn't rotted away with rust then it's worth trying to save. I can't speak on if you paid too much or whatever, that's not really my place.

You just gotta bite off little bits at a time (for instance right now you could tackle redoing the wiring, then maybe the vacuum, etc etc). That way you don't overwhelm yourself with work. Just pick a project to tackle in the car, ask plenty of questions on here, and be patient. If you put the work in you'll come out having learned a lot and having the car in the shape you want it to be. Hope that makes sense.
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 03:59 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

Thank you so much. You really came a long way. I know i can't give up. I see on this website everybody has some projects that they've been working on and there cars look amazing, and i want my car to look like that. Thank you for the help.

And my car does have rust on the roof from the inside of my car and on the hood a bit and on the side next to my front window and side window. What should i do about that?
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 04:26 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

Were you testing for voltage with the ignition on? Some fuses have no power until then, I believe even others have none unless the accessory it powers is turned on( wipers?)
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 06:50 PM
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yeah the ignition was on
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 06:52 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

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Were you testing for voltage with the ignition on? Some fuses have no power until then, I believe even others have none unless the accessory it powers is turned on( wipers?)

Yeah the ignition was on.
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 07:23 AM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

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Thank you so much. You really came a long way. I know i can't give up. I see on this website everybody has some projects that they've been working on and there cars look amazing, and i want my car to look like that. Thank you for the help.

And my car does have rust on the roof from the inside of my car and on the hood a bit and on the side next to my front window and side window. What should i do about that?
You're welcome. That rust doesn't sound bad, if there aren't any holes through the metal (i.e. just surface rust) then just clean it good then spray it with some rust reformer (there's different brands, but it turns rust into primer). Once that stuff has dried, hit it with a wire brush to clean it up even more (brush it until all of what was rust is gone) then spray it again.

That will keep it from getting worse, at some point you would want to paint it.
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 03:15 PM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

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You're welcome. That rust doesn't sound bad, if there aren't any holes through the metal (i.e. just surface rust) then just clean it good then spray it with some rust reformer (there's different brands, but it turns rust into primer). Once that stuff has dried, hit it with a wire brush to clean it up even more (brush it until all of what was rust is gone) then spray it again.

That will keep it from getting worse, at some point you would want to paint it.
Yeah the rust is pretty deep. I have pictures but i'm not sure how to post them. I'm able to view the pictures, but you say you're not.

Do you maybe have a email I can send them to?
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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 07:04 AM
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Re: Please help ! tail light won't turn off and brake lights wont work!

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Yeah the rust is pretty deep. I have pictures but i'm not sure how to post them. I'm able to view the pictures, but you say you're not.

Do you maybe have a email I can send them to?
I do but I'd rather not have stuff leave the forum if I can avoid it. What alot of people do on here is get a photobucket account (google it) and then you can simply post the URL's directly into your responses and it will post them up.
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