Electronics Need help wiring something up? Thinking of adding an electrical component to your car? Need help troubleshooting that wiring glitch?

Electrical Problems

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 27, 2023 | 05:13 PM
  #1  
Freejack's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
Electrical Problems

Short story long, interior lights don't come on, headlights pop up but don't illuminate. Pulled starter and took pic of cavity and have a couple questions. The black & white cylinders enclose the fusible links? And how to tell if they've gone bad? They're hardwired into the harness so have to splice new ones in?

Also, there appears to be a broken sensor wire tucked up in behind there. What sensor is this?



Thanks in advance for any input.
Reply
Old May 27, 2023 | 05:34 PM
  #2  
aliceempire's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,093
Likes: 175
From: Milwaukee
Car: 92 Firebird, 77 Trans Am SE, 86 Z28
Engine: 5.7 HSR, T/A 6.6, empty
Transmission: T-5, TH350, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08 posi, 3.23 posi, 3.23
Re: Electrical Problems

Originally Posted by Freejack
Short story long, interior lights don't come on, headlights pop up but don't illuminate. Pulled starter and took pic of cavity and have a couple questions. The black & white cylinders enclose the fusible links? And how to tell if they've gone bad? They're hardwired into the harness so have to splice new ones in?

Also, there appears to be a broken sensor wire tucked up in behind there. What sensor is this?



Thanks in advance for any input.
1Those are fusible links.
​2When hooked up to power, take a test light and check the wire down stream for power.
3 Same as splicing in any other wire. Buy a new link, crimp or preferably solder it in place of the bad link
4 Knock sensor

Reply
Old May 27, 2023 | 07:57 PM
  #3  
OrangeBird's Avatar
Supreme Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,939
Likes: 801
Car: 1989 Firebird
Re: Electrical Problems

Originally Posted by Freejack
Short story long, interior lights don't come on, headlights pop up but don't illuminate. Pulled starter and took pic of cavity and have a couple questions. The black & white cylinders enclose the fusible links? And how to tell if they've gone bad? They're hardwired into the harness so have to splice new ones in?

Also, there appears to be a broken sensor wire tucked up in behind there. What sensor is this?



Thanks in advance for any input.
The black and white cylinders are not the fusible links, they are merely the connectors that join the fusible links to the larger wires that originate in the harness behind them. The actual fusible links are the rust brown small wires that connect to the terminal ring that goes onto the starter's big connection(the +12V feed from the battery. The sensor in question is the knock (detonation) sensor and once you splice the new proper connector onto that wire you'll simply plug the connector onto the sensor.
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 10:12 AM
  #4  
Freejack's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
Re: Electrical Problems

Thank you both

Originally Posted by OrangeBird
The black and white cylinders are not the fusible links, they are merely the connectors that join the fusible links to the larger wires that originate in the harness behind them. The actual fusible links are the rust brown small wires that connect to the terminal ring that goes onto the starter's big connection(the +12V feed from the battery. The sensor in question is the knock (detonation) sensor and once you splice the new proper connector onto that wire you'll simply plug the connector onto the sensor.
So is it safe to assume that if the brown/rust/orange wires aren't burnt/fried/severed, then they're okay? Or I should test them (for continuity?) because they might they be severed inside the insulation?
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 10:49 AM
  #5  
OrangeBird's Avatar
Supreme Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,939
Likes: 801
Car: 1989 Firebird
Re: Electrical Problems

Originally Posted by Freejack
Thank you both



So is it safe to assume that if the brown/rust/orange wires aren't burnt/fried/severed, then they're okay? Or I should test them (for continuity?) because they might they be severed inside the insulation?
Hi Freejack, your best bet would be to check them because your already there. They can go open inside without showing outward signs, but that's kinda rare, usually they melt the insulation if they're overloaded but vibration can cause them to fail too, which wouldn't be obvious just by looking at them. If the fusible links do check out OK your next place to check for +12v power would be at the red wire going into the headlight switch, as shown in this handy wiring diagram:




Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 11:45 AM
  #6  
Freejack's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
Re: Electrical Problems

Handy diagram, indeed. Looks like my Electrical Engineering final exam. Might be an all nighter. lol
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2023 | 01:00 PM
  #7  
Freejack's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
Re: Electrical Problems

UPDATE: From bad to worse

While reinstalling starter, the cheap plastic end cap crumbled. Ordered new starter and a Delco reman alternator. Unfortunately, I got the wrong alternator and I have no idea on the specs or compatibility. Are all alternators created equal?

My car has a 4-pin connector, but only 2 wires; and this reman is looking for a 2 paddle connector. Any chance I can use this alternator if I adapt the two wires to the two paddles, given that it can mount properly? Pics below.


paddle connector

4 pin
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jagevileye21
Electronics
1
Mar 15, 2011 04:41 PM
slippingaway
Electronics
2
Jun 2, 2009 06:32 PM
knife fox
Electronics
1
Sep 4, 2007 09:27 AM
Dizturbed One
Tech / General Engine
2
Oct 20, 2006 09:20 PM
Borsty
Tech / General Engine
7
Jun 27, 2005 03:11 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:49 PM.