That's an excellent question.

 

Second thought. Can we get an admin to lock this and his other thread for the same item. Something is just odd about it seeing as how we have all offered every safe option for both buyer and seller, and yet he still sticks to a money order being his only option for paying for it. Which we all know could screw the buyer out of 200 dollars easy.

 

I gave everybody pictures like they askd know one trusted me!now the first person that said he will take it suddenly wants it(he gets first SHOT)I have you and 1 other person after him. The 2 others said they can pay with moneyorder. I have 2 post because 1 has pictures 1 don't IM a member Since 2003 I haven't broke any rules so backoff I recently sold a moates autoprom to a member.Some people don't trust other people.I have bought parts from justinformula thirdgenranch,others with moneyorders no problems

 

Did you buy it from Sumit or this guy?
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...ealth-ram.html

10-07-2012 you were interested in buying his.
11-27-212 you post one for sale.


Reminds me of this,
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...elth-rams.html

 

SHall i post the reciept from summit racing with the vortec Stealthram,and my drivers license, mister thinks he knows it all

 

Yea, a pic of you yourself holding the receipt from Summit, your drivers license, and the Stealthram intake with the number 13X in yellow paint marker on the left side of the intake, in front of your local police station would be fine.

Damn, man, all anybody has asked is a little verification or your credibility. That's not sayng you are dishonest, or trying to rip anyone off.

It's just the way all this has went down makes it seem a little shady, (even if it is 100% legit).

Quit being a stubborn old fart and set yourself up a paypal account and you could have this sold within minutes. (I say stubborn old fart jokingly so don't get all wound up over that. I'm a yr older than you according to your profile here.)

 

hehe this is kinda funny still no sale and just to pointed out he never posted the pictures other members did it for him

 

First of all a member went to my old post and found the pictures. i had posted. Second of all who says no sale i have 3 thirdgen members if 1 falls throgh i have 2 more,third i stated why no paypal. So QUIt crying about something you dont want to buy.

 

I haven't seen anybody whining about not wanting to buy. I've only seen people trying to buy it and a seller unwilling to put forth any effort to sell. If you can't put forth enough effort to post your own pics, (that we can see full size), how can we trust you to take the effort to ship the intake??

I must have missed the reason for no paypal. Refresh our memory.

No Id verification yet. You say you've bought and sold on ebay. What's your ebay ID so we can look at your feedback there?
Oh, and btw, ebay requires payment through paypal as far as I know. Been that way for a couple years at least. So how have you been buying off ebay with money order payment?

 

i do want to buy it but i dont think u want to sell it since ur just going around in circles and did not honor first come first served

 

If the first person that wanted it stopped making excuses He would have the stealthram by now The pictures when i clicked were full size I dont have credit therefore no paypal,You and junior are teaming up.Ebay did except moneyorders.Also have used moneyorders at thirdgen ranch,Justin89formula

 

no excuses i did pm u , u told me about the pictures u never responded back to my pm or did u ?

 

Ok, no credit card is understandable. It's been a long time since I set up my paypal, so I don't know what it takes to do it now days. I can tell you I don't have a credit card either.
Who's the first person that wanted it? From this thread or the other one? (For clarification to everybody)

Who's junior? LOL I'm not teaming with anybody. I'd like to buy it myself, but there's others in front of me and I'd be a little pissed if somebody crowded in line and bought it out from under me, so I won't do that to somebody else.

I said before I'd buy it COD, but at this point that would be about the only way since distance prohibits a face to face sale.

 

I did not personelly respond after you asked for pictures but i tried to find a way to repost them they werent on my desktop and thhey were on my laptop document file.Then tuned performance found my old posting for this manifold.I stated on the posting why no paypal. Instead of atacking somebody try listening if you dont want it why post negative comments

 

actually i never complaing about payment method i was the first to jump and said yes to money order went pictures where to be posted u got ur stuff wrong

 

after you saw the pictures you didn't pm me sayig ill take it therefore I felt you didn't want it.My friend sent pictures from his phone to my email.when I clicked on the small picture it was almost full screen.There are 4 people that want it 2moneyorder2cod.iwent with the first person that said yes to a moneyorder(you are second in line now) followe by a cod. then a meet up with someone

 

actually i was the first to say yes check thead

 

hour n 14 min after the original post....

 

Can you read my pms? You posted ill take it. Everytime you said my picture weren't good enough! the pictures were the best I had.someone pm me before you.everybody crying they wanted it.No one commited to buying it.I have a customer who saw the picure pmd him my info .Im waiting to see if he picks a moneyorder up.YOU arenext in line

 

Well senior,

I was just wondering when you bought yours from summit since you said you was going to buy the used one from here, then a month later you posted a for sale ad for one.

Did you have two? When did you buy yours from summit?

 

bought mine from summit when the vortec model first came out, Holley kept delaying the release Ithink i was put on a waiting list.I dont think i ever WAS going to buy a used 1 Dont know why i would.Bring me to the post where i said i was going to.ThankYou If i did say i was going to buy it it was because i wanted to port it out and i was using the car that my Stealthram was in.Again show the post HEHE

 

thank you ,hehe

 

Ifound his pm I was buying 30lb red top injecters not a stealthram from the guy .He was from canada and shipping was $60.00 he was going to split it with me $30.00 Anything else johnny he he

 

now your taking cod ? great if Im still in the running I would like to buy it.

 

Hopefully im one of the 2 backups...

 

Hey, I would purchase you parts / stealthram. my email 1staxelrose@hotmail.ca

 

hey, I would like to purchase your parts / stealthram

 

I think i have sold the vortec stealthram.The customer said he will send a moneyorder out monday,Next in line is1badz28sd.I never said i wouldnt use cod. I asked how its used.

 

Did it sell?

 

yes it sold Got moneyorder today

 

cool thanks for selling to another person went there where others ahead inline

 

NO problems no hassles.The guy pm me before you.! I tried to get what people wanted,(pictures) ect they weren't good enough. several people bad mouth me and tried to acuse me of a scam tried to have my thread locked.I was just selling something. I told people why I had no paypal (no credit) People asked about cod I asked how cod worked. People also thought I was trying to buy another one from someone(this has nothing to do with my sale) but I was only trying to buy 30lb injectors from I guy in Canada.I offered to post my original receipt,photo drivers license,passport just gain some trust. The only thing I didn't give was my ebay id that's because the lasttime I tried it said invalid password,user id I tried to re regester but it said user id taken. I had lots of positive feedback i lost.I lost my whole ebay account. The member who bought it didnt hassle me and didnt try and get my thread locked.He pmd me.Maybe in the future try pm ing instead of trying to spread negative comments and trying to ruin my sales.hehe

 

Who was the lucky buyer?

 

You made alot of offers of buyer security, but came through on none.
I agree with Johnny, post who bought it. Whoever bought it should post in this thread and also keep everybody informed if they actually receive the intake.

 

Lucky hopefully not unlucky. I will pay for security on a transaction unless its from a member I have had a few dealings with and built up trust.

 

Blackroc, all I can say is look at the threads posted almost every day about people being taken on a sale. It makes people hesitant. They just want some type of assurance that if the deal goes bad they are protected. I can't blame them for that. If you want to buy or sell online, a Paypal account is almost necessary for protection of both parties. Glad it worked out for you.

 

There is no protection in a papal transaction. Ebay promotes PP and stands behind the deal not PP. I talked to PP directly and that's what they said. The only thing PP guarantees is the money will be transferred from the buyer to the seller

 

Not true at all...You can file a dispute within 90 days of a transaction, just like with a credit card, and Paypal will automatically credit your account while buyer/seller work it out and/or they investigate. I have been dealing with PayPal since about 1999. I have had to do it a couple of times, twice on ebay for receiving a grossly misrepresented product and recently on here when I sent a member money for lifters which he never sent. He hasn't even been on since I sent payment but I was able to recoup my costs. In the ebay cases, I was reimbursed fully for one, in the other, the seller and I worked out a deal. All of the cases I opened with PayPal though and were monitored by PayPal through resolution.

I've been following this thread, mostly for kicks b/c the seller's responses and comments I found amusing, and there's no way I'd send a seller like this a payment without using Paypal....

 

I got protected on this misrepresented /damaged item.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/clas...-john8169.html

 

Your CC company isn't going to do jack for you either on a misrepresented item. Been down that road. Nobody's withdrawing funds from anybodys account

 

Not so sure about a misrepresented item, but I am positive about non receipt. I even had them reverse charges when my daughter ran up $1,000+ on Zynga games on facebook. I have a much stronger password now LOL. Bottom line is some level of protection is better than sending cash and hoping for the best.

 

Yes, yes they will. That's why you can dispute a transaction, been down that road myself. Not trying to derail this thread over the does, don'ts and how to's of seller/buyer protection, however, PayPal and/or your credit card company will offer you the protection needed for an online transaction. The other option is to use an online escrow service that holds the buyers payment until item is received and confirms it is what it was claimed to be, then forwards payment to seller. MoneyOrders, Moneygrams, etc, have ZERO buyer protection. Once money is sent, that's that.

 

Paypal claims to put a hold on the funds until the dispute is resolved. But seeing the money is available immediatly, the account could easily be drained before you receive the item.

The dispute, which could drag on forever, is no guarantee either. Seller could say, didn't look like that when I shipped it. etc

 

That is a possibility, which is why I always use my credit card as the payment option of choice, double coverage.
We could go back and forth all day on this I suppose...bottom line is, as a seller, accepting PayPal is a better way to offer buyer security.

 

True dat

 

the buyer is a menber of thirdgen.org when he recieves theStealthram he has the option of telling everybody .HE doesnt have to. i didnt here any complaints from thirdgen ranch when i gave them a moneyorder,or justin89formula.I can buy with moneyorders but cant sell to thirdgen.org members with moneyorders.Also I have been a member longer than most of you,Like i said anyone could have pm me if they really wanted it,

 

well actually i was the first to post in this thread and i did pm after i posted in the tread so actually i was the first i dont know who u did sell it to because i havent got a replay back to my pm. FYI i seen members older than u get kick out of this forum

 

and what did we all learn from this? cash talks BS walks!

If you wanted it so bad you should have paid up, when Im selling the first person with money gets it. You didnt trust him (condition of the HSR, needed pics), why should he trust that you'll actually send the money?

 

??? How does that make an ounce of sense?

The money is always sent first. Then the buyer trusts the seller will send the item.

Example;
I say I will send payment for such and such item, but fail to send it for what ever reason. What did the seller loose? Maybe a different potential buyer at the most.

Example 2;
I send a seller a payment for such and such item, seller receives the $ and doesn't send the item for whatever reason, now who lost what?

Now what did we learn from this?

 

Since you brought it up. What's to stop you from misrepresenting what you received and keep both the money and the item? I've seen this happen before and I'm curious how the seller is protected in cases like this.