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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 11:17 AM
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Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

Wanted: For a 1986 Chevy Camaro 2.8L V6 MPI engine
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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 11:23 AM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

Do you happen to know the old p/n if it’s the same for tpi 85-88 ?
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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 11:37 AM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

Originally Posted by Mark RWC
Ricks Camaros shows it is out of stock with a price close to $300. If a new one is available it would be expensive. List of GM vehicles that used the same switch at the bottom of post. Someone in the forum said it has a timer built in to the switch so it only operates for 9 seconds.

Check your existing CSS with a meter for proper operation. The switch is closed supplying ground. Below is from Factory Service Manual for V8 but V6 operates the same way.

when the engine is cold but opens around 100 degrees.
+12 Volts DC supplied only when cranking engine


List of vehicles with Cold Start Switch from a member who found a replacement in junkyard on a corvette
I should be picking up the Cold Start Switch here shortly. In case anyone was having this issue as well here are the vehicles that the part is on. Same part for the V6, V8 (305 and 350) and the L4

1985 Buick Skylark L4-151ci 2.5L TBI,V6-173ci 2.8L 2BBL,V6-173ci 2.8L MFI
1986-1985 Cadillac Cimarron L4-122ci 2.0L TBI,V6-173ci 2.8L MFI
1989-1985 Chevrolet Camaro V6-173ci 2.8L MFI,V8-305ci 5.0L MFI
1989-1987 Chevrolet Camaro V8-350ci 5.7L MFI
1989-1988,1986-1985 Chevrolet Camaro V6-173ci 2.8L MFI,V8-305ci 5.0L MFI
1989-1988 Chevrolet Camaro V8-305ci 5.0L TBI
1989-1988 Chevrolet Camaro V8-305ci 5.0L TBI,V8-350ci 5.7L MFI
1987-1985 Chevrolet Camaro V8-305ci 5.0L 4BBL
1986-1985 Chevrolet Camaro L4-151ci 2.5L TBI,V8-305ci 5.0L 4BBL
1986-1985 Chevrolet Camaro,Celebrity L4-151ci 2.5L TBI
1986-1985 Chevrolet Cavalier L4-122ci 2.0L TBI
1986-1985 Chevrolet Cavalier,Celebrity V6-173ci 2.8L MFI
1986-1985 Chevrolet Celebrity V6-173ci 2.8L 2BBL
1985 Chevrolet Celebrity V6-260ci 4.3L MFI
1985 Chevrolet Citation II L4-151ci 2.5L TBI,V6-173ci 2.8L 2BBL,V6-173ci 2.8L MFI
1988-1985 Chevrolet Corvette V8-350ci 5.7L MFI
1986 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera L4-151ci 2.5L TBI,V6-173ci 2.8L 2BBL,V6-173ci 2.8L MFI,V6-231ci 3.8L MFI
1986-1985 Oldsmobile Firenza L4-112ci 1.8L TBI,L4-122ci 2.0L TBI,V6-173ci 2.8L MFI
1985 Oldsmobile Firenza L4-112ci 1.8L TBI,L4-122ci 2.0L TBI,V6-173ci 2.8L MFI
1986-1985 Pontiac 6000 V6-173ci 2.8L 2BBL,V6-173ci 2.8L MFI
1985 Pontiac 6000 V6-260ci 4.3L MFI
1986-1985 Pontiac 6000,Firebird L4-151ci 2.5L TBI
1988-1985 Pontiac Fiero L4-151ci 2.5L TBI,V6-173ci 2.8L MFI
1989-1985 Pontiac Firebird V6-173ci 2.8L MFI,V8-305ci 5.0L MFI
1989-1987 Pontiac Firebird V8-350ci 5.7L MFI
1989-1988,1986-1985 Pontiac Firebird V6-173ci 2.8L MFI,V8-305ci 5.0L MFI
1989-1988 Pontiac Firebird V8-305ci 5.0L TBI
1989-1988 Pontiac Firebird V8-305ci 5.0L TBI,V8-350ci 5.7L MFI
1989 Pontiac Firebird V6-231ci 3.8L MFI
1987-1985 Pontiac Firebird V8-305ci 5.0L 4BBL
1986-1985 Pontiac Firebird L4-151ci 2.5L TBI,V8-305ci 5.0L 4BBL
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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 09:06 PM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

GM Part# 19244930 Let me know if you locate one. I need one also.
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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 11:20 PM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

I have 2 if that’s the same for tpi. It seems like it is
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 06:46 AM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

No, they are completely different. I purchased one and have it installed right now and my car does not want to start. I wasted $100.00, but that was my fault, it clearly said it was only for a TPI car. However, I just found the right one out of a Corvette, based on the original part of 14084318. That was changed to 19244930 sometime ago. You will not find one under the changed part #.
Thanks, for the reply, much appreciated.
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 07:56 AM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

So I guess the time switch contacts are an open circuit. Sorry I didn’t have anything to help with.
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 08:40 AM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

Is the connector part right? Just not the npt portion? Maybe a npt adapter ?
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 01:24 PM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

No problem, I wish I could have bought one of yours, but I already have one and it does not work in a MPI engine. Completely different.
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 01:26 PM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

Oh I had just assumed the function was the same as tuned port. Bummer may someone parting out a 2.8 will chime in.
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 04:35 PM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

Yes, the connectors are the same
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Old Mar 10, 2025 | 09:02 AM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

Originally Posted by Nova73
Wanted: For a 1986 Chevy Camaro 2.8L V6 MPI engine
Hi All! I am needing the sane part! I just found one from a Corvette!
This is the original that came out of my 89 camaro 2.8 v6. Im also needing the smaller radiator fan switch. Any leads where i can find!
This is the original that came out of my 89 camaro 2.8 v6. Im also needing the smaller radiator fan switch. Any leads where i can find!
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Old Mar 10, 2025 | 09:05 AM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

I need a radiator switch also. Any leads?
Radiator fan switch out of 89 v6 2.8. . Looking for this part. Any leads?
Radiator fan switch out of 89 v6 2.8. . Looking for this part. Any leads?
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Old Mar 10, 2025 | 09:09 AM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

Originally Posted by racheallu49
I need a radiator switch also. Any leads?
Radiator fan switch out of 89 v6 2.8. . Looking for this part. Any leads?
Radiator fan switch out of 89 v6 2.8. . Looking for this part. Any leads?
are you sure that’s not a coolant temperature sender for the gauge ? Looks like a older one with nail head connection not spade.
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Old Mar 10, 2025 | 10:31 AM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

Hi. I have the temp sensor which i replaced. This particular part is in the side of the blick on drivers side!
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Old Mar 10, 2025 | 08:20 PM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

No, can not help you out.

Last edited by Nova73; Mar 10, 2025 at 08:21 PM. Reason: s;elling
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Old Mar 27, 2025 | 06:53 AM
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Re: Cold Start Temperture thermo time Switch

I bought one for a TPI engine and it does not function the same as one from an MFI engine.
Don't ask me to explain why. All I know is it does not start the engine when ignition key is activated. It will crank and crank, then fire, but will not stay running. Then The 2nd or third time you activate the ignition it will start and stay running, if you hit the gas pedal and pump it 2-3 time, but now you created and over-fueling
situation that will cause carbon to build-up on your spark plugs and sooner than later you will end up replacing your spark plugs.
The Cold Start Injector Switch functions as an on/off mechanism to activate the Cold start Injector, enriching the air-fuel mixture during cold start- ups.
The Cold Start Temperature Switch incorporates both temperature & time controls, which ensures that the cold start injector switch operates only when the engine is sufficiently cold and for a limited duration to prevent over-fueling the engine. These additional layers of control are critical for optimal engine performance.
Both switches have the same part number, but they do not function the same. So, if you need one or the other, make sure you ask if it was removed from the front or the rear of the intake manifold. The Cold Start Temperature Switch is located in the front and the Cold Start Injector Switch is located to the rear.
I finally found The Cold Start Switch, yesterday on e-bay, but I had to pay $145.00 to get it. It is a hard part to locate and if you need one and it is the correct one you need, you better buy it. Don' let the seller tell you that they function the same, not true.
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