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Old May 23, 2003 | 12:42 AM
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305 tbi to 302 carb

ok i have a 92 firebird with a 305 tbi and i have a 302 or 350 out of a 67 nova. i was wondering what i will have to do to make it carb and if its 350 what will i have to change. thanks
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Old May 23, 2003 | 09:26 AM
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As far as what you have to change, nothing, if the heads have accessory bolt holes in the ends of them. On the other hand, if you want to license it, you'll have to change your plans; it is not possible to license a 92 model one of these cars with a carb in California, period.

Better rethink your idea before you spend any money, if you would like to be able to drive your car after you do this.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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302s only came in 67-69 Z28s and I think 350s came out in 68. Maybe you have a 327? Of course a motor may have been swapped into the Nova the last 35 years. By the way, anyone know what nova means in Spanish? It means Doesn't go or something to that effect.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 10:17 AM
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no this is the stock 302 w/ 290hp and 290 tq engine out of a 67 nova it has 60,000 original miles. and nova has something to do with stars in english and spanish
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Old May 23, 2003 | 12:08 PM
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Maybe he didn't make it Clear enough 302 DID NOT COME IN NOVAS...ESPECIALLY 67 NOVAS!! Is that clearer? a 302 is a RARE find in the least...Check your numbers again...302s and 327s have same Casting numbers in certain years...The casting numbers on my 327 I am building are the same as a 302 casting...But its not a 302 if it came in a Nova
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Old May 23, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by 92 305 BIRD
no this is the stock 302 w/ 290hp and 290 tq engine out of a 67 nova it has 60,000 original miles. and nova has something to do with stars in english and spanish
Some one may have swapped a 302 into the Nova from a Camaro. Or the 302 might be homemade (283 crank in a 327) but doubtful (check casting numbers for sure). It might be a 350 (350's came out in 1967 not sure if they were put into Nova's though, I know Camaro's for sure, What can I say I'm a CamaroFreak )

As stated earier orginal Chevrolet 302 were only available in the '67 - '70 (Not '70 1/2 and newer) Camaro's.

'70 Camaros are 1969 Camaros that spilled over into the 1970 production year.

And NOVA in spanish means "NO GO" But they are great cars for small blocks, Camaros are great cars for BIG Blocks

Later, Garrett
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Old May 23, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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NO VAS IN SPANISH IS NO GO! NOT NOVA. AND YES 67 NOVAS CAME WITH 302'S ILL ADD THE LINK WHEN I GET HOME TO SHOW U.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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and yes i know they came in 67-69 z-28's . did u know the 302 came in a 01 camaro. its called a 302 camaro. it wasnt produced but it came in the ones they made.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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Dude, you're wrong. 302s never came in grocery carts like Novas. I gon't give a rat's hindquarters about some link. I don't have to read a magazine article, or see a web page, or even find a book about "classic muscle cars" to know that.

Not to be an anus, but....

Were you there at the time? I WAS. Do you know the history of the 302, and how hot-rodders had been building it since the 327 came out (calling it the 301) and why Chevrolet "invented" it in 67 and put it in Camaros only throughout its 3-year production run, and what it was specifically "created" for? I do, as do a bunch of the other people still around who were there.

"It's gotta be true, I saw it on the Internet." Yeah right.

Obviously you're quite young. That's OK, it's a fault (a blessing?) we've all had to deal with at one time or another. You'll get over it all in good time it you keep your mouth shut long enough about stuff you don't know about, and concentrate on learning instead of telling.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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[Useless fact] They made it for the Trans AM races IIRC where the limit was 305 cubes. [/Useless fact]

I thought they only came in the 67 Z28's for some reason.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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Close...

The 302 was made from 67 to 69; in 67 & 68 it was made out of a small-journal 4" block (327), and in 69 it was made from a large-journal 4" block (350). The only car it came in was the Z28.

The limit wasn't 305 CI, it was actually 5.0 liters. In order to run in SCCA's Trans Am series you had (and still have) to produce a production-run-sized quantity of them; in 67, that quantity was 500. RPO Z28 was the first RPO I can actually recall being a "street" word; everybody knew that if you ordered a Camaro with that RPO, you got the production version of a race car. The Z28 got you a bench-seat floor-shift car, only available with a 302 and a 4-speed. The only option you could get was a heater (yes, even that was optional); you couldn't even get a radio, much less A/C or leather seats or disappearing headlights or other non-racing dead weight.

Interestingly enough, Pontiac didn't run in the Trans Am series in any of those years, not until much later. They merely bought the rights to use the name for a specific muscular model of their version of the Camaro, which was known as the Firebird.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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http://www.carnut.com/specs/gen/chv67.html heres the site that shows u that they came with a 302 so go look.this is the link for the 67.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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I don't see in there where it says that a 302 came in a Nova. That just shows that it came in some model of Chvevrolet in 67, a well-known fact (it came in the Camaro Z28). It's a good thing, because if it did say it came in a Nova, it would be wrong.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 08:43 PM
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got to the link click on the horse power witch is 290 and it tells u what that 302 came in.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Dude, I really don't want to be a jerk, but....

The 302 didn't come in Novas. It was only available in Z28s. I don't need some link to show me any of that, I was there. Get a clue.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by 92 305 BIRD
got to the link click on the horse power witch is 290 and it tells u what that 302 came in.
Dude, no matter what engine you click on, the same list pops up.
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Old May 24, 2003 | 06:13 AM
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I already told you one and I'll tell you again...67 Nova + 302 NEVER EXISTED....If your so sure, Find more then one source to prove your wrong and worthless point....Better yet, Call GM I am sure they will tell you your wrong...Stop arguin man
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Old May 25, 2003 | 06:46 AM
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all i can say is i wish i knew as much when i was 17 as 92 305 bird thinks he does. like beating a dead horse there was no 302 engines avaiable from gm in anything but a 1st gen z/28, and it's z/28 not z28. just like lt-1 and lt1 are not the same thing. the strongest engine you could get in a chevy II was the L79 327/350hp.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 07:18 AM
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the strongest engine you could get in a chevy II was the L79 327/350hp
Which is what I'm building for my car now....
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Old May 25, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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hey sry the guy said it was stock and i found a better site and they didnt come with it. i wasnt try to act like i knew alot but the other site said diff and the said that it might have been changed so sry thanks.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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and the guy said *
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Old May 26, 2003 | 05:55 AM
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And to answer your question...For carb you'll need a different intake manifold, the carb itself, and a different distributor....
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