How hard of a swap would it be to put a 351 Windsor into a 89 IROC:rockon: :lala: :lala: :lala: :rockon:

 

not as hard as a lot of other engines would be, but hader than others. really depends a lot on your defination of hard.

 

Put it in a Mustang instead, it'd be one hell of alot easier.

 

Whats this? A Ford motor in a GM vehicle? j/k well first the easiest thing to do with the torque arm would be buy jeg's torque arm that bolts to the tranny tunnel cause if you run a ford tranny there will be no mount for the arm. Even if you use a GM tranny with a mount for the arm you'll need to get the tranny & engine in the correct spot for it to hook up. Also if your going to use headers you'll most likely need to get a set custom made. Oh yeah don't forget the driveshaft you'll most likely need to have it made longer/shorter. Only things really left is getting or making some type of motor mounts and figuring out the wiring. Personally in my opinion it'd be easier to drop in a sbc but what ever floats your boat.

 

Why?

 

That is a sickening thought!! . What are you thinking lol:nono:

 

whats the bore/stroke on that thing ?

It should be cheaper to build a 350-383 ...

 

Your IROC will run better with GM designed parts....

Stay away from the dark side!!!!

 

That is the single stupidest thing I have ever seen on this entire site.

Does "406 sbc" mean anything to you? You could also swap in a 1.6L 1985 Ford Escort engine...but do you actually want to? Why not a big "VTEC" engine....

 

headers, motor mouts, tranny crossmember, driveshaft would have to be custom. other than that - why a ford motor? Chevy's are cheaper to build...

 

Hey man don't be knocking on the Escort 4 banger they make a sweet kick *** 90hp there was also a performance version that made 110hp. I mean with that kind of power in a third gen your bound to go fast aint ya? I guessing he's doing it to be diffrent or he has a good running 351 available. Like me I could of built a 454 for the same or less than my 507 caddy but I'm doing it for the fact of it's not been done that much. whats the fun in playing follow the leader anyways?

 

I can actually appreciate wanting to stuff 500 cubes of Caddy in a Thirdgen...cheaper than building a 454 and more torque...stuffing a huge engine in is one thing...but a smaller Ford engine is another.

As for an Escort, I used to have one so I know the performance potential...

It still makes no sense to swap in something smaller than a 400 sbc, especially in this case as it will be a PITA to do...and the SBC is a bolt-in...

I stand by my statements...

 

Since I used to own a 2000 Mustang GT, actually thought about a nice 302 from a Stang to replace the 2.5 sitting in my 84. Yeap....was laying in bed one night and actually thought "What if there were a 302 sitting in my 84". I love Stangs....but I also love 3rd gens. If I went through with that, I could have the best of both worlds.

Brandon

 

Brandon. Try lying in bed with a member of the opposite sex to take your mind off such a disgusting engine swap.

 

Hmmm! I'll give that a shot and let you know what happens.

 

LMAO!!! Great idea... :sillylol:

 

Why anyone would want to put a POS ford motor in a chevrolet is beyond me?? what you should do is put the trash in A Ford mustang & save the camaro for real Horsepower.

 

I hate to break it to you man but mustangs weigh less and can have just as much if not more horsepower than a camaro. Not to mention mustangs came with forged internals which means they can take more from a power adder.

 

Like I read in one of this months car mags "A engine doesn't care whats badge is on the nose, all they do is eat dead dinosaurs"

 

Wow 5 days and the orginal poster with 3 total posts hasn't responded. Did you smart people ever think that you have been had and this was BS or were you going to reply for another week?

 

Hey Dude...hate to break it to you...but even if it is just a naive user asking the question...the answer is still valid...not just for this original poster, but since people can SEARCH the archives, this post will be available as will the knowledge contained within...

People ask "what if" questions all the time...if someone asked about dropping in an air-cooled VW engine...I would respond the same way.

BTW...If I want to reply for another week or even TWO...I can...my social schedule allows for it

 

Just did that to see what kind of response I would get. I am actually building a 383 to drop in.

 

why go to all that work for 1 more cubic inch? i say put the money towards a crate 502 and save the rest for speeding tickets!!!

 

ur not the only 1 thats had that idea man. i been thinkin bout doin that swap for like a year now. and now that i got a firebird and a 302 on a engine stand i may drop it in there till my 350 is done or possibly keep it in there if it runs the #'s i want, and plus i was thinkin bout the idea to **** off a lot of chevy guys neway lol. mainly the 1's droppin sbc's in mustangs, but who knows i think it be badass but lot of die hard chevy kills would probly lynch the person that did it

 

I've never shoved my nose into a project like this but....I'm pretty sure you'd be asking for it on this one. I mean....making a 302 work in a GM car? Wouldn't there be alot of fabrication needed?

Brandon

 

its a hefty project yeah, but nothin that cant be done in a couple weeks with everything u would need. like motor mounts a k-member trans crossmember trans drive shaft and the car is already gettin a ford 9" rear in back. there's a few other things i cant think of off the top my head right now to but u get the idea of it.

 

Why don't you use that time to drop in a BBC? If I'm going to do that much work to my car it sure isn't going to be on a small block (let alone a ford, but we'll not get into that). If you really want a 302, go with the Chevy 302. It'll drop right in and you'll have a lot less headaches with it. If you really want a Ford 302, get a Stang.

But that's just my opinion....

 

Man, I think it is more than an opinion. I grew up on the hot rods of the 70's, 80's, 90's and now 2000's. Dollar for dollar you'll be blown off the map by a 350 chevy. It's more than a bad move. It's a stupid waste of money. But WTH ..LOL
I have my $30,000 1990 Formula if you want to include the price I paid for it new. I'd much rather turn heads rattling the ground with a EFI 3rd gen small block Chevy pumping around 400 horse. It still turns my wife on. Scary though... a ford motor in a 3rd gen......428 Cobra Jet or a 351 Cleveland motor maybe.... NOT .. a Winsor ???????? man don't even...............

 

if you go through with it you can get one of those g@y "powered by ford" stickers for your windsheild.

 

Personally I think it'd be a great idea. All you people who say "fords crap" blabhalbhablahb you're morons. Ford and Chevy have been kickin-*** for many many years they both have their share of good products as well as crappy ones. a 351W is just about the same size as a 350sbc so it might be interesting to see somebody throw one in a thirdgen. Just think atleast its a V8 domestic motor we're not throwing in vtecs and doing fwd conversions.

As for the transmission you don't NEED a ford tranny you could use a GM .... A guy I know has a fox body mustang race car with a 351W and a chevy powerglide in it.

 

Anything is possible. I made a 383 fit a Toyota pickup and it runs 10's. So, if you like a good project, go for it. Motor mounts will be a total fab job and so will the headers. The only other thing I can think of it that the passenger side head on a 351 sits further back than on a Chevy. The a/c blower box might hit the head. This is a common issue when installing a 351 in a Ranger. The Chevy motor actually fits in a ranger better.

Mark

 

the mustang u talkin bout aint blue that run NMRA is it????

 

I'm not sure if he ever really got to compete in the car it had some problems. The guy who built his motor put in the wrong pistons and he broke them so now the motors getting redone.

Heres a picture:

 

oops

 

not the car i was thinkin of, but have seen that car at the track b4 i believe.

 

I like both camaros and mustangs, but I would never crossbreed the two!

 

the 351w has larger main cap bolts. on a dyno the 351w has put out 500 horsepower or a little more in a mild build.

 

i had a 79 ltd with a 2 barrel and out ran a 3rd gen camero with a 350 and a 4 barrel.

 

so

 

A dopeslap for the 500HP 351W on a "mild build" nonsense



And a double dopeslap for the FOURTEEN YEAR thread necro

Great way to start out on a new forum , eh ?