350 swap in
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From: Cincinnati, OH
Car: '90 RS
Engine: 377 LSX
Transmission: Magnum T56
Originally posted by ljnowell
You dont want anything to do with TBI.
You dont want anything to do with TBI.
Although not always ideal TBI can provide nice power levels while maintaing good fuel economy and overall drivability when paired with the right parts. People just give up on it when the chip buring comes along. Plus if you max it out you can alsways convert to carb or another multi port set-up and hardly lose any of the parts you have already invested into your motor. Thread Starter
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From: New Hampshire
Car: 86 Firebird
Engine: none, it blew up
Transmission: 700R
Im not concerned with power or performance right now. The cars been out of service for about 2 years now and I miss driving it. I'm still woundering if the wiring harness will plug into my pcm that was for a carbed engine or if i would have to get one for a TBI.
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From: Cincinnati, OH
Car: '90 RS
Engine: 377 LSX
Transmission: Magnum T56
Originally posted by ph0nix86
Im not concerned with power or performance right now. The cars been out of service for about 2 years now and I miss driving it. I'm still woundering if the wiring harness will plug into my pcm that was for a carbed engine or if i would have to get one for a TBI.
Im not concerned with power or performance right now. The cars been out of service for about 2 years now and I miss driving it. I'm still woundering if the wiring harness will plug into my pcm that was for a carbed engine or if i would have to get one for a TBI.
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Put the 350 long block only in your car. In other words, transfer the intake manifold and everything above it, alternator, water pump, power steering, air conditioner, distributor, harness, sensors, etc., from your current engine to the 350.
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Car: Camaro Z281991 Engine: 5.7L/350 TPI Transmission: TH700R4 ··································· Car: Acura CL 1998
Engine: 3.0L/183
Transmission: 4 spd auto/OD
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As of right now, id get a Edelbrock rpm intake, and a good 750 cfm carb.
Later on, you could get vortec heads, and a xe 262, 268 or 274 camshaft.
As of right now, id get a Edelbrock rpm intake, and a good 750 cfm carb.
Later on, you could get vortec heads, and a xe 262, 268 or 274 camshaft.
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From: New Hampshire
Car: 86 Firebird
Engine: none, it blew up
Transmission: 700R
i have the PCM, the hacked up wiring harness, rusted out carb and intake, and i have headers. pretty much all the vaccume and emissions stuff is gone
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Car: 86 Firebird
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if i used the engine out of the suburban and got a wiring harness and an ecm for a third gen would the harness work on the suburban engine?
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From: Cincinnati, OH
Car: '90 RS
Engine: 377 LSX
Transmission: Magnum T56
Originally posted by ph0nix86
if i used the engine out of the suburban and got a wiring harness and an ecm for a third gen would the harness work on the suburban engine?
if i used the engine out of the suburban and got a wiring harness and an ecm for a third gen would the harness work on the suburban engine?
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
It would have been nice to know the state of your car up front.
At any rate...
If you don't have emissions inspection/testing, the simpliest way to get it on the road will be with a non-computer controlled distributor and carb. You'll need a different intake manifold as well: Weiand makes one that will bolt up to those heads ('87-up; but it doesn't have EGR valve provision - however, I'm assuming for the sake of this arguement that won't be an issue). Since your car originally had a carb in it to begin with, this route will be much, much simplier than trying to get all the harness/computer/sensors/pieces to make the TBI work that it just happens to have on it right now.
At any rate...
If you don't have emissions inspection/testing, the simpliest way to get it on the road will be with a non-computer controlled distributor and carb. You'll need a different intake manifold as well: Weiand makes one that will bolt up to those heads ('87-up; but it doesn't have EGR valve provision - however, I'm assuming for the sake of this arguement that won't be an issue). Since your car originally had a carb in it to begin with, this route will be much, much simplier than trying to get all the harness/computer/sensors/pieces to make the TBI work that it just happens to have on it right now.
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
That's a Holley number (Holley owns Weiand, I know), with square-bore carb mount only. Summit p/n HLY-300-64.
The manifold I was thinking of is the 8024. Summit p/n WND-8024.
Why they offer a square-bore mount w/EGR manifold (the Holley), but non-EGR only w/spread-bore mount (the Weiand) for the '87-up configuration is beyond me.
The manifold I was thinking of is the 8024. Summit p/n WND-8024.
Why they offer a square-bore mount w/EGR manifold (the Holley), but non-EGR only w/spread-bore mount (the Weiand) for the '87-up configuration is beyond me.
Originally posted by five7kid
That's a Holley number (Holley owns Weiand, I know), with square-bore carb mount only. Summit p/n HLY-300-64.
The manifold I was thinking of is the 8024. Summit p/n WND-8024.
Why they offer a square-bore mount w/EGR manifold (the Holley), but non-EGR only w/spread-bore mount (the Weiand) for the '87-up configuration is beyond me.
That's a Holley number (Holley owns Weiand, I know), with square-bore carb mount only. Summit p/n HLY-300-64.
The manifold I was thinking of is the 8024. Summit p/n WND-8024.
Why they offer a square-bore mount w/EGR manifold (the Holley), but non-EGR only w/spread-bore mount (the Weiand) for the '87-up configuration is beyond me.
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and you will find out all about swirl port heads, TBI, and all the other problems that come with it. 
