not really an engine swap. my 82 berlnetta is donating its 350 to my new 83 z-28. Ive never done a swa before but would two guys who have never removed an engine before be able to swap the engine in one day and have the other car running in the same day? also.. any tips on how to take out the transmission

 

Sawz-all
worked fine for getting my donor drivetrain, but might not be what your looking for in removal. Keeping emgine/tranny seems to be the best way (for those w/romm) on doing these swaps.

Other than that, search some swap threads & see what they did.

TIme on swap also depends on tools/gear availability, knowledge of car (even if never swapped an engine before), ..

 

creepingdeath,
That's pushing it for two guys that have never done it before. I wouldn't count on it all happening in one day. I guess that depends on how many hours you call a day? {LOL} You should have NO problem making it happen in two days (weekend?).

IMPO - I'd take the engine out with the tranny on it and put the other one back in the same way TOGETHER. My son & I put ours in that way just a few weeks ago and it was much easier than seperate.

Sincerely,
Kurt

 

Well im getting a new 3.23 rear and 700r4 transmission with this car becuase i blew my transmission and i could care less for the rest of that peice of **** berlinetta. isnt there just like bolts holding it together to the engine or is there anything else holding it together?

 

put the tools down, and step away.


Please get a holy book haynes or chilton & read up on what's involved w/this. Read again, and then find at least ONE person who is mechanically inclined to help w/the swap.

 

You are getting a little too agressive with this swap you are planning when you are not sure how the Tranny bolts up to the engine (actually about 10 or 12 bolts total). On top of that you're planning on a change in the rear axle?

IMPO Project: 85 2.8 bird is very correct in suggesting that you slow down a little and do some reading. Changing an engine is not that tough. It is time consuming and it can be very tedious (labeling wires and hoses to make sure you get them in the proper locations on the new engine). But it can also be dangerous as well. You could screw up just enough to get yourself or your buddy that is helping you hurt. Being a novice and trying to rush an engine swap in one day (or even a weekend) could be a good recipe for trouble. At the very least an engine that runs improperly......... or not at all.

If this is your daily driver maybe you should plan on borrowing a car for a while. If you want to be happy with the end product and do this swap one(1) time...... Take your time..

Respectfully,
Kurt

 

Ok thanks.

 

Pulling engine/trans together is much easier, and so is putting it back in that way. The 700R4 connects to the engine's flexplate via 3 bolts that need to be removed first. Then there are 6 bolts holding the bellhousing to the block. Then you just pry the two apart. The bolt up the new trans with the 6 bellhousing bolts, and then connected the flexplate to the torque converter again via those 3 bolts.

Drop the transmission crossmember and get a jack under the trans pan with a block of wood. Then un-do the motor mounts and connect your hoist. Raise up slightly to remove the motor mount through-bolts and pull them out. Now comes the fun part to wrestle everything out.

This is, of course, assuming you have no emissions equipment whatsoever, you already removed your radiator and front accessories, and all wiring (if applicable). Once we had all of that done, we had the engine/trans out of my car in like 15min. Did all the work to my new motor out of the car and reconnected the old trans to this one and dropped them back in together yesterday in about 20min.

Now we get to spend all day today hooking up all the wiring and fixing/shortening some of the wiring (I cut a lot out of my car/wiring harness while the engine was out), hooking up hoses, grounds, filling with coolant/trans fluid, etc.

Oh, and make sure when you disconnect the driveshaft under the car and remove it that you have something to shove back into the transmission to keep it from pissing fluid everywhere. We used a plastic cup, a rag, and a lot of electrical tape, but the best way to do it would be to cannibalize an old driveshaft that you're not going to use and shove the trans part of it into your transmission before you start moving anything around.

 

dont kill the old driveshaft just undo the universal joint that attaches the trans output shaft to the driveshaft

 

Well its a camaro to camaro swap from my 82 berlinette to my new 83 Z-28 im getting it this friday so i dont know if the transmission or whatever is on it. sounds like the only hard part is taking the tranmission out. it would probably be easier to pop out the tranny with the engine then just take it apart and put on the 700r4. for some reason i was thinking of taking off the transmission before removing the engine. but sounds easy now its a camaro to camaro swap so it proably will be easy. when i hook up my engine to the 700r4 and 3.23 will i need to reset the timing or anything complicated like that?

 

ive already pulled my 305 once and i took the "leave trans in car" approach.. it sucks. from now on even if i dont haev to remove the trans i will just for the fact that its so tight down there and unbolting the bellhousing is a PITA