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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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How much power..

Im swaping the 305 to a 350. So what are your opinions on how much power this budget setup will generate.

Long Block
http://www.chevy350engines.com/ce22.html
Intake
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...1&autoview=sku
Cam W/ Lifters
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...2&autoview=sku
Carb
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
In the 350 range.

Right CFM, wrong carb type.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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Hrmm.. which carb would you recommend?
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
650 double pumper.
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Originally Posted by five7kid
In the 350 range.
I take that back. I didn't look at the engine you linked, just the intake, cam, & carb. The heads on that engine with their large chambers and poor flow would hold it back. Something over 300, probably, but not 350.

Put on Vortec heads w/Vortec RPM intake, everything else the same, more like 375 HP.

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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Car: 1991 RS, 1986 IROC-Z
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Put on Vortec heads w/Vortec RPM intake, everything else the same, more like 375 HP.
Intake
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...?part=EDL-7116
Heads
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
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Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Those are stock replacement truck heads, poor valve springs, etc.

I would go this route instead http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/2172...former-RPM.htm . Has everything to do the job, including gaskets, bolts, and rocker arms (the rocker arms from that crate engine won't work on Vortec heads), and the heads are upgraded for more valve lift and RPM capability. If you don't have center bolt valve covers, you'll need those as well.

Don't believe the picture in the SDPC link. That's a standard Performer q-jet Vortec intake, not the RPM (squarebore only available in RPM Vortec at this time).
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Thank you very much
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Is this for the '91 or the '86? Or something else?

If the '91, your valve covers will fit the Vortec heads. Rocker arms will, too, for that matter, but why not go with the new ones? (Unless you upgrade from stamped.)
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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that short block with that head/intake package, cam and the 650, you should be around 375hp.. with a pumpgas friendly 9.6:1 compression ratio.. thats my guess
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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May want to price the 350HO engine something like: http://store.summitracing.com/partde...1&autoview=sku

It comes with the vortec heads. By the time you get the other long block, the vortec heads, cams, etc. you've probably exceeded the cost for the HO, and it comes with shiny valve covers (and a warranty on everything).
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Car: 1991 RS, 1986 IROC-Z
Engine: 3.1, LG4
Transmission: 700R4, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt, 10 Bolt
I did see that but.. I am buying from a local speed shop all the first links I posted above +msd distrib and mini starter for 2,900 1 year warantee and they will help me with break in so if anything goes wrong or breaks they will replace it

EDIT: running the numbers that may not be a bad idea

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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by five7kid
Is this for the '91 or the '86? Or something else?

If the '91, your valve covers will fit the Vortec heads. Rocker arms will, too, for that matter, but why not go with the new ones? (Unless you upgrade from stamped.)
Its going in the 86 IROC the 91 is a v6 and the 86 is already a v8 with carb, so that will take away a few issues.
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