Guys I'm glad I found this forum. I've mostly owned Mustang 5.0's in the past and a '94 TA. I'm purchasing a '87 Formula on Tues. It's a one owner 80K mi. car with a recent ZZ4 swap. The guy sent the car to Scroggin-Dickey a little over a year ago to have this work done. He then put about 2K on it and parked it to go overseas. Now he is having a '70 Roadrunner built, so this one's for sale. If I would have done this I would know every detail about it, but he can't answer all my questions. What I gathered from him and looking at the car:
ZZ4 crate TPI w/Hot cam & ported heads
Larger runners
Edelbrock 58mm TB
Crane Fireball HI-6
Chip (JET I think)
Headers & full exhaust

Don't Know:
Upgraded fuel pump?
Injectors?

The car is sitting at the shop where his Mopar is being built and the shop owner said the car wasn't tuned properly when he first saw it. He's drove it a couple of times a month to keep the battery up, and tuned it somewhat to his preference (much timing and a little race gas). What should the initial timing be? Do I need to unplug anything when adjusting the timing? I'm unfamiliar with the Crane box...comments? The tranny and rear are stock. I think the first thing it needs is a ~2800 stall and shift kit. Any comments...brands, experiences?

This car rips and I know I'm getting a deal at $5000, but I just wish I knew more about the ZZ4 and the 3rd gens in general. I greatly appreciate any help. Sorry so long.

Thanks,
Steve



[This message has been edited by Steve10 (edited May 26, 2001).]

 

10° BTDC @ 800 RPM/32° Total @ 4000 RPM is a good starting point, but it's gonna be a little more or less for the mods on individual motors.

There's a tan wire with black stripe with a single-wire weatherpack connector coming out of the harness somewhere on the passenget side that should be disconnected when the timing is being set.
Stay away from B&M on the converter and shift kit pieces. TransGo is the way to go.

And as far as learning about 3rdgens in general, this is the right place to be. Welcome to the board.

 

here's a link to the stock #'s for it if you don't have it already, very torquey motor http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/crate_en...small/zz4.html

 

Does it still have the MAF sensor? Probably needs a custom tuned chip, which really isnt all that difficult to do yourself. Its also possible the injectors are SVO injectors, or maybe they are just stock. Its really hard to say but you should be able to get the part number off of one of them without taking anything apart.

Get a Trans-go shift kit and a Precision industries vigilante converter for it.