my friend said his friend will do the swap for about 400 and his dad siad he can get me the engine for about 500
so all in all the swap from a 6 to a 350 will cost me roughly about 1200$$

hows them apples??

 

Thats not bad but there are ALWAYS extra costs involved,so keep that in mind.

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92RS,POLO GREEN

 

$400 for labor, $500 for engine, $600 for transmission, $700+ for all the other pieces to hook all this stuff up...

What are you doing for exhaust? The entire system needs to be changed out. Does the $400 include front spring change-out? Where's the wiring harness coming from? If this an emissions-legal swap, how about the ECM, sensors, etc? Where are you getting the radiator? Have you considered hoses, throttle cable, A/C pieces, accessory brackets? I'm sure that neither the $400 labor nor $500 engine include all that.

I believe you have rose-colored glasses on. Do some more research before you head off toward that point-of-no-return with only $1200 in your pocket.

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82 Berlinetta, orig V-6 car, now w/86 LG4/TH700R4. 2.93 limited slip. Cat-back from '91 GTA, Accel HEI SuperCoil. AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Daily driver, work-in-progress (LG4 w/'87 LB9 block, ZZ3 cam and intake, World 305 heads, Hooker headers & y-pipe, 3" Catco cat & 3" cat-back).
57 Bel Air, my 1st car. 0.030 over 396, 9.7 CR forged TRWs, Weiand Action+, Edelbrock 1901 Q-Jet, GK 270 cam, Magnum rockers, Jacobs Omnipack, 1-3/4" Hedders & 3" Warlock header mufflers, TH400 w/TCI Sat Night Special conv & Trans-Scat shift kit, LT MegaShifter, 3.08 8.2" 10-bolt w/Powertrax, AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Best 15.1/95.5 @ 5800' Bandimere.

 

well i said a 350 didn't i??

TRANNY:

problem solved: i have to get a V8 bellhousing and a custom clutch made and i can keep it HAHA!

i got this info that this is possible from a VERY reliable source
(my tranny shop)

RADIATOR: I'm gonna get one

SPRINGS: Ain't worrying about them
cuz i like the old muscle car look of high in the back and low in the front

ECM/ HARNESS: Included with the engine

ACCESORIES: Included with engine


OK so i forgot to mention the clutch and radiator But hey, in so much excitement wouldn't you?

FUTURE PLANS: T-56 Tranny Lowering the rear to match the front, getting correct springs for the front, ETC.

so left off like 300 hundred bucks

its still worth it, ain't it???

 

when you do a 6 to 8 swap you dont need to change the springs!!!!!1 it is the same part number for a 6 or an eight it doesnt matter

 

thanx for the great news 89f-body !!!!!:d

 

oh yeah for about 3 monthes i am gonna keep the 6 exhaust then i will have the $$ to get a good system

doing this stuff when your only 17 aint easy

thats why i can only do 1 part of the car at a time

and for those who say to just buy a V8 car:

within the past year i saw ONE (count' em ONE) Z28 with a manual for sale in my area

at that rate i should be able to find a decent V8/ 5 speed camaro in about 3 years

that and the fact that one day i told my mom i was brining home a 89 trans-am and she went offa the wall

 

ok folks, now for my next ????

what other stuff (other than the obvious and already mentioned) will need to be changed????


also, should a pro mechanic have any problem doing this?????

 

maybe you should just go buy a vette. mr i wanna go fast and wont listen that 1200 is not enough. that and the fact that you dont wanna get dirty and do it yourself.

what do you know about this 350? smartest thing is to do a rebuild(or an overhaul at least) while its out of the car so you dont go sticking a smoking knocking motor in. but if you wanna pay someone the 400 to put the motor in, 400 to take it back out when you bust a rod, 1800 to have someone rebuild it for you and then another 400 to put the motor back in again...go right ahead.

how do you like them apples?

btw fuel lines need to switch over to the other side, the exhaust is not going to hook up at all unless this "wonderful" 350 came out of a firebird/camaro because your going to need a y pipe that will fit in there, but im guessing your just getting a set of manifolds with ur 350.

btw again 500 for the motor? it better have less than 40k on it. i paid $150 for a 350 and a turbo 350 tranny.

and again, because you just seem like your ignorant to me, your T5 wont hold up very long because your probaly the kind of 17 year old that likes to powershift your V6.

oh did i ask you how you like them apples?

 

LOL!

in another post mr tealrsguy says he is gonna buy his dream car, a vette.

can i call them or what?

oh and to make this tech...when putting a 700R4 transmission back into your car, always remember to slide that 4 inch bolt that holds the torque arm on, otherwise you have some problems.
=)

 

Dude, I sure hope that you did some research on this motor you're putting in. What is it out of?? Does it have aluminum or iron heads? Cam specs? Is it a roller cam?

You'll need to know this stuff in the future if you ever decide to mod it.

That guy might be putting a dog 350 with 8-1 compression. In that case you'll be lucky to acheive 200 horsepower.

I recommend you make sure that if you are swapping in a motor you do it right the first time. Do your research, and always assume that you'll run into problems that are going go cost you lots of extra $$$$$

I've been researching a motor swap for my 92 RS for a year and a half! You don't think I have the need for speed?

Take your time...

 

Yep, spend $1200 plus dollars, install a bone stock 350 with small exhaust and no gears, then find out you gained 2 tenths!

 

sorry guys,
i guess i did fly offa the handle

to zerogauge: i want to get my hands dirty and do it myself!!!!!!!!!!!

1. I dont have enough know-how
2. I'll introduce you to my mother and you will need no explanation for this second reason


about the motor:
my friends dad is REALLY good friends with the owner of a junkyard

He told me he can get me a 350 TPI for abuot 500 only because of this connection

Now I know what you are saying because i said the same thing too when he told me this

THATS IMPOSSIBLE

he assured me he can get it for me

THE SWAP: He said he knows a Mechanic who will do it offa the books for me for about $400

i know i will have to buy some other parts


i realize that

as for the engine: if i find out that it doesn't come with the ECM/ harness then screw it i aint gettin it

also i was going to buy the manifolds and y-pipe along with the engine

I hope that clears this mud up

 

And if you believe that...

Right, you'd also better like constant suspension bottoming, terrible handling and accelerated tire wear.

Look, nobody is telling you not to go through with this. But, they WAY you're going about it is ****eyed, the results will be disappointing at best if you go about it as you have said here, and you seem to be bragging about it. All we're trying to do is steer you in the right direction before you head down the road. Whether or not you listen to these voices of experience is entirely up to you.

 

five7kid:

it may seem like i am bragging,
but these are the responses that i want!!!!!

i WANNA know what i am getting myself into


it sounds stupid but its just my way of doing things

anyway,
i promised my self that *if* is got the engine put in, i would take it easy on the car until i get hi-perf brakes, a T-56, and the springs


i hate to keep on repeating this but,
I'M ONLY A HIGH SCHOOL KID

I don't make 50 grand a year (beleive me if i did, i would have the vette that i want)

I make a few measly grand a year

Whats not spent on insurance goes for gas and other car supplies

So honestly even 1200 is alot for me to dish out but i'm gonna try

i also hate to say this but, if everything works out i am going to precede with the swap

and if i need help i'll have to try to get my parents to bail me out

cuz i mean i should be getting a complete engine (accessories, ECM, harness, Manifolds)
for now i am going to keep the stock tranny
(please dont say it can not be done because i determined it can) and i'm gonna get the radiator and motor mounts

what else do i need????

also i didn't mean to sound as if i was bragging i was just really excited because of the cool news that i can probably have this acomplished real soon


look at my goals for my camaro:
this year: put the 350 in
do the brakes
hi-perf exhaust
next year: T56
springs
possibly an engine rebuild

good news too:
for college i am going to go get my ASE certification for GM at the local community college

i mean, i have a real strong desire to work on cars (such a strong desire that i'm comitting myself for the rest of my life to them) hehe

but just please understand, for now, i have to take the cheap way out because it is all i can do

well lets put it this way:
would you rather see me (a 17 year old)
driving around in a nice camaro or say a rice-burnin honda that seems the latest trend


ttyl

 

i guess i was a little rude with my above posts. so apologies for that. BUT....

im only 18 and used to dred opening the hood to even put oil into my car. I bought a 350 block with transmission and had the bottom end rebuilt with new pistons for higher compression and because I didnt know anything about the motor. I put the heads, intake, rocker arms, lifters, pushrods, and carb on by myself with no experience(a professional engine builder was only a phone call away though).

I then spent $25 and rented an engine hoist and dropped the motor in, put new motor mounts in and then hooked up all the accesories(which are all new).

Im about a month and a half into this and have spent $1800 +/- a hundred. I still need some things still before the car will be complete.

I think you should slow down and consider finding a resource to help YOU drop the motor in, that way you learn what everything is and you save 400 that can be used to buy go-fast goodies.

 

I'm with everyone else $1200 is very low IMO, I'm doing a 305/350 swap my self (no labor) and I'm well into 4G's at least, granted almost none of it is stock, but I can't see you doing this for $1200. Is this car going to be smogged? You live in NJ which has one of the tougher smog laws in the country. Does that engine come with the AIR pumps, AIR tubes, charchol canister and so forth. I would set aside at leat $2500 before starting to make sure you have money to get the parts that you need when you need them. I know your on a budget but better save and do it later then having your car down for over a month and a half becuase you didn't have enough money to get the set of valve covers that you forgot. Not that anyone would EVER forget those .

 

$1200 can be a lot of money even if you do make $50k a year, especially when that supports 5 people. Trust me on that one. I've been scrapping for almost two years to get together what I'm up to, and I'm still short.

I didn't say it on this string, but I've said it many times before: The cheapest way to get a V8 car when you have a V6 car is to sell the V6 and buy a factory V8 car.

Case in point: Me. I paid $200 for the V6 car with bad engine but good most everything else. I found a rear-ended '86 V8 car for $850. Incidentals (new hoses, plugs, belts, fluids, etc.), another $300. New fender, radiator (the donor car piece leaked), another $250. I started in early July, was running late August. While I was getting ready to stab the engine, a neighbor drove up in an '87 'Bird with 350 TPI he just picked up for $950. He spend $200 after that getting it tuned up and the injectors cleaned, but he was driving when I was wrenching, for a lot less money.

So, you decide. Being on a budget is no excuse for going about something the wrong way.