Saturday I was finally ready to do the swap. I had previously disconnected everything from the engine so that it was just sitting on the crossmember and input shaft of the tranny. Attached hoist to the engine, lifted enough to have room to slide engine off tranny input shaft and then lifted engine out of car.

Motor Mount Removal:

As some of you may know, the nuts for the bolts that hold the motor mounts to the crossmember are in the crossmember. There is 1 circular hole and a small area to access the nuts through the end of the crossmember. 2 of the 3 nuts can be grabbed by a socket and extension, the 3rd really hard one was grabbed by sticking an open ended wrench on it enough to keep it from spinning while a friend rachets out the bolt from above. Be careful not to let the nuts drop into the crossmember. Repeat this process on the other one. My V8 bellhousing that I bought bolted perfectly to the V6 T5 tranny. I then realized that the 305 I have was in an auto tranny car before and I need to get a new flywheel. I also found a place in Utah that will take the 14 spline hub out of my V6 clutch disc and put it into my V8 disc and re rivet everything for $20. That solves my V6 T5 being used with a V8 problem.

More info in 3 weeks when I finish the swap.

[This message has been edited by Big Money Mike (edited October 16, 2001).]

 

dude!!!!!! keep the details comming!!!!!!

i wanna know EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!

cuz i am prolly gonna be swapping in a 350 for the anemic 6


THANX DUDE!!!!!!!

 

Ill type up what happens when the V8 goes in. It should be the week after Nov. 10th.

Mike

 

Those motor mount bolts are almost enough reason not to attempt this swap.

Don't forget to put a pilot bearing in the crank.

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Even though the info is out there figure i'll post what you need if you dont already know...

1. Pass front brake line from prop valve from V8 car.

2. Radiator from V8 car.

3. Auto trans from V8 car or T5 from either, V6 will require using slightly undersized disc or custom disc, 84 V6 disc is 9 11/16 as newer (not sure what year switched) is 9 1/8, V8 bellhousing.

4. V8 wiring harness under hood or modify existing V6 harness.

5. V8 manifolds and Y pipe or headers.

6. V8 engine mounts.

Believe thats all that was required.

Motor mounts werent THAT hard sheesh, get creative with extensions and swivels, use a piece of tubing over the swivel to make it stiffer and put grease in the socket to keep the bolt in it.


[This message has been edited by Z28racer (edited October 16, 2001).]

 

cool, but i aint gotta worry about a harness cuz i am doing a total carb

i know its not gonna be legal, but i got my ways

i know i will have to wire my fans

i'm just gonna wire them to a switch in the interior
i think instead of builing a 350, i mite just save time and get the GM 350 250HP crate motor for like $1400

what is so hard about the motor mounts?
is a special tool needed?
what not-so-normal-tools will be needed for the swap?

 

oh yeah, you forgot to mention a fuel pressure regulator.........how do i hook up the fuel lines?

 

Do what I did, just go to the local auto parts store and get a stand alone relay. It has a temp sensor, relay, and wiring harness in one small block. It took me 15 min to install and works perfect, mines adjustable. Cost like $36 adn has 36" wire leads and installation diagram with all of the wires labeled also.

 

It's what Mike was explaining in the original post - nearly impossible to get a wrench on them unless you've got skinny hands and forearm.

About the easiest way to do it (which I didn't think of until it was too late) is to drop the a-arm (which you'll be doing if you want a decent ride because V6 springs droop too much with a V8 in there). But, with no engine weight to help compress the springs, you'll need a spring compresser to get the a-arm back up. The good news is, with the a-arm down, access to those pesky mount bolts is a snap.

 

well, thats not that bad of an ordeal to keep me from doing this

like i said, i am just going to get the GM goodwrench 350 250HP crate motor

i think i am going to get rid of my A/C cuz i never use it

and obviuosly, aint no smog pump stayin' on my block

so all i will have is the balancer, water pump, altenator, and power steering pump

what would be a good belt(s) system to run these with? serpentine or multi?

hmmm......what will i need for an ignition system? a distributor, a coil, what else?

should i do HEI or points?

also, whats the best way to pull the engine without buying a cherry-picker? four guys, 2 planks of wood and chains was what i mite be thinkin..................

 

Big Money what the name of the palce in utah

"I also found a place in Utah that will take the 14 spline hub out of my V6 clutch disc and put it into my V8 disc and re rivet everything for $20. That solves my V6 T5 being used with a V8 problem."

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http://www.sixstates.com/locations/s...ange/built.htm

Six States is the name. They make clutches for just about anything that uses one. Im shipping my V6 and V8 discs to them tomorrow to have the hubs switched out for $20!!!

Im working on an article to send to thirdgen.org that outlines the whole process I went through during this motor swap. Im half way done now. V6 out, V8 waiting on motor stand to go in. This swap really isnt as bad as people make it seem.

Mike