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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 02:27 AM
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why r people this dumb

ok i bought a 85 comaro that started its life out as a sport coupe, now its a z28. the PO spent roughly $10,000 in this car for her son and then his friend told him that he know what he was doin. so they ripped the top half the motor apart to install new heads cuz one was cracked or so he was told by his friend. then it just sat there but all the wiring has been removed from the engine and now its mostly put back together but im running into some issues with the wiring. the engine is a 350 carb that was put in they cut two wires from the pos side of the batt hook up there is a bigger red one that is still hooked up to the starter but there is a thin orange one cut a med black one that is cut. also there is some random plugs that are just hanging. there is no a/c there is no smog pump if you can help me it would be great! i mean the friend was so dumb he cut the fuel line from the pump to carb cuz he was starting to strip the fittings by using an open end wrench. so i can really use help please!!

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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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Re: why r people this dumb

So what's your question?
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 07:57 AM
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Re: why r people this dumb

The medium size black one probably goes to the stud on the back of the alternator.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Re: why r people this dumb

thanks for the black wire issue!!! we figured thats what it was but dint want to mess any thing up. and the question is if any one has any pics or info that would be usefull tryin to figure out where some of the loose conectors go.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Re: why r people this dumb

Wait a second, a black wire going to the alternator, that doesn't sound right. Do you have pictures?
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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Actually, its probably black with red tracer.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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Re: why r people this dumb

Maybe but its not worth blindly trying. The OP needs to make sure before he connects that one.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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Re: why r people this dumb

Sounds like you need a ohm meter and the wiring schematics.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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True this. I just looked on Mitchell. The alt on the '85 connects directly to the batt. Two fuse links come from the batt term of the starter. One to ign sw, the other to courtesy fuse, headlamps. Even with pictures of the existing wiring, it may be so fubarred that the OP just needs to get a factory diagram and start from scratch. Mitchell has a fairly simple diagram. Mitchell's available online at most public libraries.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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I did the V8-into '85 2.8L Camaro swap a few years ago. The orig setup had a fusible link between the alt and the batt, and the rest of the wire was orange on the alt side. It was spliced into a red wire to the batt, from a PO replacing both batt cables. When I bought another pair of new batt cables from NAPA, the red wire wasn't red, it was black.
Color doesn't mean much after 25 years of modifications. Gauge matters, what connects to what matters, but not something so readily changed as color.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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Re: why r people this dumb

Originally Posted by Atilla the Fun
I did the V8-into '85 2.8L Camaro swap a few years ago. The orig setup had a fusible link between the alt and the batt, and the rest of the wire was orange on the alt side. It was spliced into a red wire to the batt, from a PO replacing both batt cables. When I bought another pair of new batt cables from NAPA, the red wire wasn't red, it was black.
Color doesn't mean much after 25 years of modifications. Gauge matters, what connects to what matters, but not something so readily changed as color.
Agreed which is why he shouldn't just be connecting wires ***** nilly. When dealing with battery, starter, alternator wires, one mistake can lead to a fire, electric shock, fried parts, ect. The OP needs to trace the wires from end to end. Providing pictures would also help.
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 01:32 AM
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Re: why r people this dumb

ok for the wires there is thr sid post clamp there is 3 wires ont fat red one runs to starter the med wire black that is cut and i beleave it is the one to the alt there is also a small orange wire that runs into the wiring harnest
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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can you post pics of your specific wires in question? that would help us all out so were not guiding you blindly.
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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Re: why r people this dumb

dont know if this helps at all.

the color of the wire really doesnt matter, if its spliced into the pos, side then its a hot wire either way. the alt needs a wire going to the battery, so why would that cause any damage if the wire was black or orange. the only thing that matters is the gauge of the wire,( i beleive you need the 10 gauge wire) you could use either one if you really wanted to.(if they are both 10 gauge or bigger) but anyway, my alt. wire from the factory is black with a red tracer ,goin from the back of the alt. to the pos side of the batt. i had an ecm at one time and all the orange wires i had comming from the batt. went to the ecm. dont know if that helps cause mine is a 91
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 12:32 AM
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yea that helped me alot that is the wire that i was thinkin it was
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 12:56 AM
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Re: why r people this dumb

well the baby runs. now there is just a few more things we have to do and she should be ready to take to car craft.
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