Straight pipe VS free flow cat
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Car: Red 87 IROC-Z28 T-Top
Engine: 5.7 Tuned Port Injection
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
Axle/Gears: BW 9-Bolt 3.27
Gains from a regular pipe to a high flow converter?? The converter won't flow as good as a pipe even if it is high flow.
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From: Tucson, AZ
Car: 1991 Z-28
Engine: Can you say stroke?!?!
Transmission: 700-r4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Well, sound is an issue of personal taste. As far as emissions go, I'm running 2 cats with pipes through both. Passed 3 years in row so far with no problems.
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From: Davison / Troy ,Michigan
Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 3.8
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 60
I am not running a cat (free flow pipe), edelbrock headers and a custom 3" exhaust system w/ flowmaster 80 series and I don't think it sounds bad....pass emissions, maybe not but I am in Michigan. 
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Car: 99 Formula
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I would just stick with the hi flo one, unless it needs replacing you're not going to notice much of a butt dyno difference.
Well, right now I have the stock one (100,000mi.) I was just wondering if there was much of a difference between the two, hp wise. I don't have any emmissions testing, but if it's pretty loud I may get a visual inspection by the cops. The made-to-fit test pipes aren't much cheaper than many of the free-flow cats.
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From: Davison / Troy ,Michigan
Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 3.8
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 60
i would just go with a high flow cat then. That way its legal so ur not worried about getting hassled.
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From: Caldwell,ID
Car: 2005 BMW 545i
Engine: 4.4L N62B44
Transmission: 6spd auto
Axle/Gears: Rotating
Originally posted by 1989camarorsrs
the gains will be negligent i wouldnt do it , high flow cats are bettter( sounds bettter, pass emissions)
the gains will be negligent i wouldnt do it , high flow cats are bettter( sounds bettter, pass emissions)
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From: Detroit, MI
Car: 1987 Trans Am GTA
Engine: 5.7L 350 V8 TPI
Transmission: Automatic 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27
Originally posted by 91Bird305
I am not running a cat (free flow pipe), edelbrock headers and a custom 3" exhaust system w/ flowmaster 80 series and I don't think it sounds bad....pass emissions, maybe not but I am in Michigan.
Here is what it sounds like
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I am not running a cat (free flow pipe), edelbrock headers and a custom 3" exhaust system w/ flowmaster 80 series and I don't think it sounds bad....pass emissions, maybe not but I am in Michigan.

Here is what it sounds like
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From: Davison / Troy ,Michigan
Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 3.8
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 60
No i do not have emission testing in my area either. I didn't know there was another Michigander on this site.
You need to come over to www.camaroz28.com/messagebd and go to the Michigan board. So many people there, gatherings, races, lots of fun stuff. I am in the car club out of detroit Motown Muscle. ( www.motownmuscle.com ) The Michigan GM Gathering/Race event is Oct. 5th at Mid-Michigan Motorplex in Stanton Michigan. Suppose to be a huge turnout with lots of cool stuff and u get to race all day at the nicest strip in Michigan. IM me on AIM sometime or E-mail me.
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You need to come over to www.camaroz28.com/messagebd and go to the Michigan board. So many people there, gatherings, races, lots of fun stuff. I am in the car club out of detroit Motown Muscle. ( www.motownmuscle.com ) The Michigan GM Gathering/Race event is Oct. 5th at Mid-Michigan Motorplex in Stanton Michigan. Suppose to be a huge turnout with lots of cool stuff and u get to race all day at the nicest strip in Michigan. IM me on AIM sometime or E-mail me.AIM: J007golden
E-mail: J007Golden@aol.com
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From: Dixon, IL
Car: RS
Engine: 305
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.42
cost of high flow cat= $100
cost of test pipe=$12
spending the rest (78 bucks + 10 for your gas tank) to get the title for a 86 sport coupe, priceless
cost of test pipe=$12
spending the rest (78 bucks + 10 for your gas tank) to get the title for a 86 sport coupe, priceless
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From: Lower Salford, PA
Car: 1987 Camaro Z-28
Engine: 6.3L Victor EFI
Transmission: Tremec TKO 600
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"/4.11 Trac-Lok
Just go to your local Meineke or Midas shop & have one made. I paid $15 for one.
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From: Dixon, IL
Car: RS
Engine: 305
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.42
test pipe/off road pipe/ cat delete pipe, its all the same, I went to napa, got a 2 1/2 inch pipe, cut the cat off, kept the 'butt plate' welded the pipe to the butt plate, 12 bucks
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From: Orlando, Fl / Ne.Philly
Car: 96 SS, 88 IROC
Engine: Lt1, TPI
Transmission: m6,a4
Axle/Gears: 3.90. 3.73
wont the local shops give you a hassle if your in a strick emissions zone??? which i am in one.... plus i got the A.I.R. so i need the air tube also that would go into it, and i dont feel like spending 75$ on the mac offroad pipe..
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