Im trying to get a GP together for a Random Catback in stainless.I will contact Random today on the GP prices and will get back to tell what Im told.Email me for a pic.I was sent one by Gearhead,but I dont know how to post it here

 

well count me in. this is the pic of the alumized version on a thirdgen. the stainless is identical just different material.



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"I don't trust anything that bleads for five day's and doesn't die"
88 iroc slp headers,borla catback,procharger to come soon.

 

That looks great.I am also going to call Random today.I emailed them but got no response yet.That system looks real good.I like the Borla too Gearhead,no offense to what you have ,but I think for the price I wish Borla would have put a lot more effort into that system.I will let you know

 

if we can get 10. muscle motors will do 499 on the stainless. 299 on the aluminized

 

Ill do that!Thats a good deal.We have 2 so we need 8 more.I emailed one of Randoms vendors but didnt hear back.Lets get this going.

 

Do they have one in aluminuminized for a dual cat car?What size intermediate pipes are available?What size exit pipes?If they have what I want,count me in!!!!!

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92 GTA(only 226 made)ort matched sportsman heads with 2.05 valves,64 cc,milled .015,.028 head gaskets,port matched Accel runners,port matched plenum,port matched edelbrock intake,flow matched injectors,jet hot headers and 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust,Flowmaster muffler,underdrive pulleys,slp cam,1.6 rockers,slp cold air induction,52mm throttlebody,performance resource custom chip,Dyna module,Screamin Demon coil,Accel 8.8 wires,Bosch platinum plugs,timing at 10 degrees,tb bypass,relocated map sensor,shift kit,Fairbanks billet servo,pump vane kit & 2400 stall,Torque converter lockup switch,3.42 posi with welded axle tubes,Zexel Torsen HD diff.,Summit rearend girdle,solid pinion spacer,& alloy axles.Boxed panhard bar,lakewood lca's & edelbrock strut tower brace,Jeg's torque arm,Jegs welded in subframe connecters.Performance friction pads,turbo slotted front rotors,stainless braid brake lines.Roh ZT 17x8.5 front wheels with 255/40ZR/17 tires. 17x9.5 rear wheels with 275/40ZR/17's on the street.Hoosier 26x9.5 slicks on the strip.

 

what is the MSRP?

 

the msrp or the stainless is $688. as for a dual cat version I don't see one listed. I would personally elimiate the daul cats cause they are too much money to replace. if you are upgrading exaust you could convert to single cat. my dad has 90 1LE but I can't remeber what they wanted when his cats went bad but it was alot. he just elimnated them.

 

how does the random cat-back sound in comparison to others? like flowmaster and hooker and what kind of performance gains might it bring?

 

as far as sound I have never heard one. I will email them and see if they have a wave file I can get. the cat back is supposet to bring 25hp on a fourth gen. the have dyno graphs for this on thier website. At 499 for a dual exit stainles kit I am sold.

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"I don't trust anything that bleads for five day's and doesn't die"
88 iroc slp headers,borla catback,procharger to come soon.

 

Gearrrhead,I m in on this too. Its very strange,its like it came out of the woodwork this catback,its been around a while,but I never found it,until now.Its a graet deal no matter how you look at it.$500 for a full stainless catback,with a full intermediate pipe.Good deal.Up here in the north rust is a very big problem.My brothers catback Flowmaster system is all rusted up after almost 2 years,what a shame.

 

I LOVE the way this exhaust sounds. I have headers and no cat so my car is IMO extremely loud, but pleasing to the ears. My brother has it on both of his cars too (89 formula 305 and 99 camaro ss) so I think we are a random tech family. It has a distinct sound unlike flowmaster (what I had before). BTW our systems are aluminum. One of our buddies had a stainless system and it sounded different but equally as good. But none of our cars sound exactly alike so the exhaust note will change a lot depending on the engine and whether or not you have headers or cats.
Hope I helped. Sorry I went on so long, I am just excited about my new exhaust.

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1990 Formula 350
*Hooker Headers
*Random Technology 3" Exhaust(no cat)
*Accel AFPR
*K&N
*Airfoil
*170* Thermostat
*Metco Lower Control Arms
w/ Lowering brackets
*F-Body Perf. Panhard Rod
*1999 16x8 Formula Wheels
*White Face Gauge Overlays

 

OK I've got a question:

If you were going to put headers and a cat-back on at the same time, (on a 5.7 TH700 IROC, single cat), would it make sense to get a system designed for dual cats, altho cats will not be installed with either system?
Would it make much difference?

Opinions please!!!!!!!!!

 

no. converting to dual cats doesn't make sense to me. maybe a high flow. you are going to a single pipe anyway cause of the gastank being in the way. randoms single cat will out flow alot of mufflers. so if you are running 3 inch exaust with a single muffler you would be buying an extra cat for nothing. if you were that worried about power loss you could thow in the pipe replacement for the cat and put the cat back on when it was time to get emissions checked.

 

okay I did missunderstand you a bit. the answer is still no. In a dual cat system the cats are in your y-pipe. So you can't really set your car up for dual cats with out having a cat. in a single cat sysem the cat is after the y-pipe.

 

What size is the Random Tech stainless catback? And I'm assuming it would fit directly with one of their high-flow cats? Anyone have this setup running, with or without headers and what is your opinion of it?

 

It is 3 inch catback and 3 inch dual outlets.It regularly goes for $575 we are getting it for $488 plus shipping.I have never heard it but,I have heard the 4th gen kit it sounds real nice.With the way the Borla fits(like crap inho)I think its worth it since it is all stainless.The picture of the catback looks very good.

 

wow..... 500+ dollars....
is there anyway to protect the aluminum with some kinda coating?

I live in IL. : (

thanx

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91 FireBird 305 V-8
no true mods,
ghetto rigged cold air intake,
People dont have a soul, its just something parents made up to frighten little children, like the boogie man, or micheal jackson..."

GheTTo Riggers INC.
We Make Mcgyver look Like Crap

 

it would cost too much. you could have you exhust jet hot coated or something put it would probaly cost between $150-$200.

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"I don't trust anything that bleads for five day's and doesn't die"
88 iroc slp headers,borla catback,procharger to come soon.

 

blah $400.00 for a stainless catback??
i know youve said flormaster rusts and crap but like you also said, stainless is O.K.
from Flowmaster:
3" American Thunder CatBack STAINLESS
Price: $320.00
and you get that powerfull rumbly flowmaster sound to boot, for less money and it wont rust.
I just installed it on my 89' Camaro (stock) and all that BS about losing Low end torque is nonesense it appears, or in just lucky, or im insensitive to loss of torque. The car sounds great (with a gutted cat of course) and it was only $340.00 after shipping. A few clamps and welds later I've got the best sounding car around.
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com

 

Oh, and yes it has dual outlets for the twin stainless pipes look. and no they arnt cheaplooking or are they bolted on or some crap, in fact, they are setup the same way random techs is (in that picture up there) and are almost identical, except the muffler i think is a little bigger? or maybe its just the pic. it comes in 5 peices, Muffler 1 3" inlet with 2 3" outlets , 2 Stainless 3" pipes, a hook shaped pipe for going over that hump of an axel, and a straight pipe to go from there to the cat. its all 3" pipe and is mandril (mandrel??) bent so it flows evenlly. no im not a flowmaster sales rep, just an EXTREMELLY satisfied customer who highly recommends their american thunder series (that would be 80 series muffler) system. its killer and i may have to take pics to convince you all, but its well worth it.

 

Firebretha,you dont need to coat the stainless steel system,it never rusts,$500 is the cost of the stainless steel system.It will never rust.

KingtaalOn,you had better read closer onthat new system ,IT IS NOT STAINLESS STEEL.it is aluminized.It will rust.If you look at the picture of the system the intermeediate pipe is 3 pieces,that is a lousy design,more chance for leaks.Its not worth it in my opinion.Ive had a Dynomax before,it rusted,it was aluminized.My brother has Flowmaster,it rusted.I had Edelbrock Tes headers,they rusted.Thing is any steel weather coated or not will not last much more than 2-3 years.I dont know where you live but up here in the north we have big rust problems.I bought SLP headers,and now I will get a stainless steel catback.ITs well worth it when you consider you will be replacing your cat back every 2-3 years.

If you live in a part of the country that doesnt have big rust problems,go ahead and get any system you can afford.But in the New England area,you are better off planning ahead.

 

the flowmaster is aluminized and you got stroked. $260 from summit. that is fine everone who thinks alumized doesn't rust is wrong. Had flowmaster on my pickup. granted I went in the mud a bit but they started rusting after 2 1/2 years. I love the sound of flowmaters and if they had a stainless kit I might buy it. this thread if to get a group purchase for the random tech going not tell me it is too expensive. don't go bashing the system for being expensive when you think your alumized system is stainless. $488 for a full stainless system is not that bad. Do your homework before you try to educate us stupid people.

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"I don't trust anything that bleads for five day's and doesn't die"
88 iroc slp headers,borla catback,procharger to come soon.

[This message has been edited by gearrrhead (edited March 21, 2001).]

 

$688.00 dollars for a stainless steel catback thats bullshi# sorry for my language but thats very disturbing. Lets even say u remotely bring it down to 400.00 with 50 group of purchase that freakin highway robbery. I dont know what u guys are getting yourself into but your folks must be making money. If i ever spend 400-600 dollars on a catback system ill shoot myself. wow.

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92' camaro
New 305 block TPI conversion, Flat top pistons,Bore over .30 Forged parts all around,Edelbrock intake,ported plennum,ported corvette alluminum heads, accel cam,52mm throttle bodie, SLP runners Home aid cold air induction, Air foil,ford SVO 19lb injectors,fuel regulator,cloys timing chain, comp alluminum roller rocker arms and pushrods MSD 8.5 mm wires, bosch plattinum plugs, hypertech cap & rotor and coil, Edelbrock TES headers, free flowing catalytic converter and a 3 inch force II flowmaster exhaust system, and a 3 inch cutout,Zoom multi friction clutch, T-5 tranny,billenstien shocks&struts.
Soon to come!!!
Procharger system 12lbs o boost.
New paint job(hawaiin orchid purple)Cast alluminum ZR1 rims w/ 275 tires.
Favorite quote: "where ever u go, there u are"

Other car;
1971 plymouth Duster
Mods:340,edelbrock victor jr. intake, 650 4 barrel holley, heddman headers,40 series dual flowmasters, cold air intake,4:10 gears, just got a new paint job and cragar rims with 315 tires in the back.
:Yeah its not a chevy but damn how many 71' dusters have u seen in the streets.

 

well if you would have read that is the msrp. the the gp price is $488 plus shipping for 10 of them. I am thinking we need to start a new thread people are getting confused.

[This message has been edited by gearrrhead (edited March 21, 2001).]

 

i think the only confused ones are yourselves!! i contacted flowmaster direct, and it was $320.00 from THEM AND IT WAS STAINLESS thats why its not 260 from summit, summit doesnt carry it!!! its custom from flowmaster, and they charged $320!!!!
I did my research, and I made my rounds, it was a good price with the flowmaster name and even if it WASN'T Stainless, I live in florida so i dont care really... and about it being in peices it has to be or it wont fit over your axel then down to your cat, thats only 2 peices not 50000! maybe you should do some research, you know they make new things every day. Its Stainless, Cheap, and you can't tell me otherwise.

[This message has been edited by Kingtal0n (edited March 21, 2001).]

 

Well it looks like you two have made up your minds.So move on,you arent interested in getting into the Gp post somewhere else.We dont need dumbasses like yourselfs quoting prices and opinions on systems and spewing wrong information.We dont care about the Flowmaster,we dont care about any other system on the market right now,we care about getting 10 people to purchase this system so we can get it at the gp price.And if you think the price is 2 much,well then thats your opinion,you know what are said about those Ive spent alot more on my car than both of you combined,so spending $500 on a stainless steel catback is worth it to me,I dont like to do things twice.You are a fool to believe the Flowmaster is stainless steel,anyone who has a head on their shoulders,or has at least a 1st grade education can read whats on Flowmasters website.It says ALUMINIZED.

 

bah call them before you make assumptions.
i know what their website says, and i kno what you say about opinions. that was one of YOUR opinions as well. while your at it, go pour some salt on your car.

 

LOL!What a clown.Go join the circus.You dont even own the system all you did was call.Get lost will ya.

 

your just jealous cuz i have a flowmaster catback thats stainless and you dont.

 

How old are you,5?Please stop your nonsense.I would love to get a stainless steel catback for what you paid,but thats only in your dreams.Please wake up to reality,its time for daycare.

 

$488.00 plus shipping
Enjoy those stainless steel

 

i knew youd respond. ever hear the saying, they only fo it for attention? or houw about, they WANT you to respond, thats what makes it so fun. you just have to have the last say dont you? no, rather, the last post. go for it, take your frustration out on someone. your going down knowing i own a stainless cat-back from flowmaster, and it only cost me $320.00

 

I bought a Flowmaster 3in. cat back for my 1995 TA. It's the American Thunder and it was the one for $320 that came with Stainless steel tail pipes coming from the muffler. Only those pieces were stainless. The cheaper version just comes with regular tips.

 

I'm getting a sinking feeling.

 

Its all in good fun. Theres no reason for anyone to get upset at someone just cause they were giving an opinion. I mean thats what this board is all about. Helping each other out, and sometimes critisizing someones work

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92' camaro
New 305 block TPI conversion, Flat top pistons,Bore over .30 Forged parts all around,Edelbrock intake,ported plennum,ported corvette alluminum heads, accel cam,52mm throttle bodie, SLP runners Home aid cold air induction, Air foil,ford SVO 19lb injectors,fuel regulator,cloys timing chain, comp alluminum roller rocker arms and pushrods MSD 8.5 mm wires, bosch plattinum plugs, hypertech cap & rotor and coil, Edelbrock TES headers, free flowing catalytic converter and a 3 inch force II flowmaster exhaust system, and a 3 inch cutout,Zoom multi friction clutch, T-5 tranny,billenstien shocks&struts.
Soon to come!!!
Procharger system 12lbs o boost.
New paint job(hawaiin orchid purple)Cast alluminum ZR1 rims w/ 275 tires.
Favorite quote: "where ever u go, there u are"

Other car;
1971 plymouth Duster
Mods:340,edelbrock victor jr. intake, 650 4 barrel holley, heddman headers,40 series dual flowmasters, cold air intake,4:10 gears, just got a new paint job and cragar rims with 315 tires in the back.
:Yeah its not a chevy but damn how many 71' dusters have u seen in the streets.

 

I thought this thread was for individuals interested in a RandomTech group purchase to apply.
(It has been interesting, though.)

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85 calif. iroc
383/A4
9" rear

 

It is But some individuals seem to want to change our minds $488+ shipping is a deal considering the Borla is $550+ shipping and the quality of that kit is non existant.Although Borla is a good company their mufflers sound the best(imho)They seem to have missed the boat on the design of the kit,3 piece intermediate pipe,that doesnt even reach your cat to boot.It doesnt even resemble the 4th gen kit which is much better designed,I dont know why,3rd gens get the **** end of the stick many times so it doesnt surprise me.I emailed them on this,never got a response.I wanted a Borla kit,but found out the design of it before I ordered it(thank god)If anyones still interested we are still trying to get it together.KingtaON,can we intrest you in a COMPLETE STAINLESS STEEL CATBACK?Guess you found out the truth,most kits specify stinless steel tips,thats it,probable someone mislead you.Get in on our GP,for a real stainless steel catback.You know you want to get in on it thats why you keep responding

 

you know i WOULD want to get on it except, i already OWN a Flowmaster american thundercat-back... which was $320.00 like the other dude said because of dual exits or something. I'll admit i MAY be wrong, but i still think they are stainless... Im going out today with a knife and chaffing one of the pipes, if it chaffes, its aluminum... but stainless wont chafe. either way, i love it and rust isnt a prob here in South Florida so im keepin it. but, if that random tech is a good company, then perhaps that is a good stainless catback design, and possibly a good price. ill let you know about my "stainless exaust" you know i never thought about maybe just the tips were stainless, after i clamped and welded it in there, i never gave it a second thought, always assumed so... but then again, for me aluminum is better since its lighter therefore weighs less therefore shaves a quater of a tenth off my 1/4 mile time :-)

 

ohh this stuff pisses me off for some reason. procharged maybe we should start a thread in the group purchase area and get the mods to not allow useless posts in it. only questions about it or people who want it.

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"I don't trust anything that bleads for five day's and doesn't die"
88 iroc slp headers,borla catback,procharger to come soon.

[This message has been edited by gearrrhead (edited March 26, 2001).]

 

alright ill leave ur thread later.