Hey Guys....I want a set of the Edelbrock TES Headers with the chrome plating...but.....I think they are only available for the single cat thirdgens with chrome plating. I have the dual cat set-up on my 91 Z28...would I be able to get the single cat set for my car? I mean.....I don't have any cat's on my car.....I just thought I'd ask before I decided. I will still call JEGS to see if they do make a dual cat set with Chrome Plating....but..in the catalog....there dosen't seem to be any....

 

Just get the ones that have the 3" outlet on the y-pipe & get a piece of 3" pipe to extend it to your 3" catback.

 

For chrome plating, add a "1" to the basic p/n. So, dual-cat application is "6876", dual-cat chrome plated would be "68761".

On www.summitracing.com, it's EDL-68761 ($420.39), www.jegs.com 350-68761 (special order).

 

6872 is for the 3" single outlet, 68721 if you want chrome plated, $349.95 from Summit.

 

I wonder why they are so much more expensive from summit.....I mean...they are the same headers....just a different y-pipe right??

 

Rick is leading you down one path, I'm going down another.

Yes, it is the y-pipe ("pipes" in the case of the dual-cat setup) that is different.

I assume what you really want is chrome plated headers. You now have a dual-cat-type exhaust (you said no cats - but still that type, right?), and want to get chrome headers on your car somehow.

Converting to a single-cat type system involves more than the headers and y-pipe, you also have to get it to your muffler - that's what Rick was saying in his first post about the 3" pipe. But, unless you have pipe, pipe cutting, and welding equipment available, you're going to have to go somewhere to get this work completed, at least.

The $70 difference between single-cat and dual-cat headers is going to seem like peanuts by the time you get the single-cat setup adapted to your current system. If shops in your area are anything like those in mine, anyway.

 

I'm really not trying to start anything here but...
Adapting the y-pipe cost me a total of $15 + at the local Midas shop. I simply measured the distance between the y-pipe & the rear flange on the cat, added 4" had them cut a 3" pipe & expand the ends to 3" id. In my application the flange had to be cut off the intermediate pipe so the new piece could be slipped over & clamped on, no welding or great expense was incurred & took me about an hour to complete in my driveway.

 

Wish your Midas was across the street from me rather than the one that is.

7 years ago, I had a system completely bolted up, all I wanted was for them to weld the collector reducers to the exhaust pipes. Charged me $40 and it leaked. I took it back. Week later it leaked again, I discovered muffler putty all over their reweld. Gave up on them.

Another shop,wanted a down pipe from SBC manifolds to existing BBC exhaust pipes. Charged me $80.

Another shop, wanted my I-pipe expanded to slip-fit a piece of 3" pipe, and a 12" piece of 3" pipe (no installation, no welding, just those two things). $45.

I haven't even gone to the places people tell me are "expensive".

 

I wouldn't take my car there for them to work on, but if you go to these guys & know exactly what you want & don't try & rush them they will usually help you out. It also dosen't hurt to to find a guy that's a fellow hot rodder & strike up a conversation with him about his car & what you are doing. It can really help "grease the wheels".

 

If I already had the dual-cat setup, I would tend to want to keep it. Now, personally, I wouldn't tend towards TES, either. But, the dual pipes of the dual cats is preferred to a y-pipe. From the factory, it was worth 10 hp on an L98. Granted, it will probably be slightly less gain with headers, but still quantifyable.

My last "Midas experience" involved the '57. I had two Warlock header mufflers I wanted them to modify (bend) in order to clear the tranny crossmember, and then mount to the tail pipes. The "fellow hot rodder" manager called mid-day on my cell phone and said it couldn't be done, but he'd do turbo mufflers for me. I said, "make sure they are at least 2-1/2" inlet and outlet." He said okay. When I went to pick it up, it had 2-1/4" mufflers on it. His explaination was that's all they had in stock, and it wouldn't matter that much, anyway (right, just .3 difference between mufflers and uncorked). Notice my sig now says "Warlocks". Oh, well, enough of my griping.

 

What Headers would you go for then?..with the dual cat set-up?......SLP's are very nice....but way out of my price range...

 

I would probably keep the dual cats too. But if you read the original post, he removed them. Given that, there is no advantage between dual & single cat. It's still two 2.5" pipes into a single 3" either way.

 

All told, I'd go with Hooker 2055's, coated. About the same price as SLP's when all is said and done. I can't get excited about TES, or chrome plating.

I agree, w/o the cat, you're basically doing the same thing as dual cats w/o cats. That, however, is dependant upon single-cat y-pipe design, which is why I would say go with the Hookers. Others, like Hedman, basically have a 2-1/2" pipe that is adapted to a 3" cat inlet, so I can't give blanket approval to single-cat headers. I've heard that TES is better than Hedman, but there's other things about TES I've heard that I don't much like.

 

Well I have the 6872 TES on my Camaro as I type. I have only 2 problems with them. One is they rust easily which is why I had them Jet-Hotted & two is they won't support my 450+ hp engine which is why I am switching to 2210-1 Hooker longtubes. Fit was never a problem nor were leaks in almost 3 years. BTW the car ran 13.1 @ 105 with a lame fuel pump, TES & full exhaust.