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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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Jethot Coating WOW!!!

Just want to let the guys know that are thinking about getting a jethot coating, GO FOR IT!!! I just got them back today and wow they are beautiful the shine is awsome, has to be the best 200$ ive ever spent well worth it, well worth the price. All I can say is I will continue to send intake headers, and anything I can coat to Jethot, there work is gr8 and I wouldnt ever reconsider again!!!!!!!1 :hail:
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 06:31 PM
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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do u order headers from jet hot or do u send headers to them?
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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Either way. You can send yours new or used or buy most major brand headers from them already coated.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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Which coating did you get?? From looking at their site they offer many different kinds. I would want something that'll last a very long time and will keep temperatures down.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 07:34 PM
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I got the 1300 in Sterling Silver. Looks like well polished aluminum.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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Ok I'm still confused about something. Like, are all these coatings still ceramic? Do they put the ceramic first and then the silver? How exactly does this work.
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yup jet hot kicksass
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 09:11 PM
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YuP!!! Just like them pics u posted. I sent my old headers out looking like yuck rusted and all kinds of worthless... I sent them in and got the 1300 sterling coating, and they look better then brand new. My friend seen them, and he has coated hookers from hooker direct, and mine outshine his by a long shot... there gr8 i cant wait to get them bolted in and here what my ravin exhaust sounds like now...
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So they clean and coat the headders for you? How much was shipping?
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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Why did u cut your headers???? whats up with that...it'll ruin ur finish!!
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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I think those are the hookers that come with the cut primary to get the starter out but i may be wrong.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 07:10 AM
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I think those are the hookers that come with the cut primary to get the starter out but i may be wrong.
That's exactly how my 2210-1 Hookers came too. It makes it easier to install.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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as in the great word's from the old mighty butt-head, (Those are the coolest thing's i have ever seen)
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thats how the headers come so u can get to the starter if need be.
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 10:20 AM
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My SLP's were Jet-Hot coated and they look GREAT!
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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those headers look good, can u get them uncoated anywhere and how much?
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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What kind are those and where did you get all that. How big is that y pipe
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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They're Accel/Lingenfelter headers. I bought them from a gentleman here on TGO. I think the y-pipe is 2 1/4".
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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very sweet set of headers, i like them, nad they have the air tubes so still street legal.
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i went to go see if LPE still made them... no luck.. thoes are a nice set up... the y pipe could be bigger... 2 1/4 to a 3in pipe is a big bottle neck...
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 11:57 AM
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i went to go see if LPE still made them... no luck.. thoes are a nice set up... the y pipe could be bigger... 2 1/4 to a 3in pipe is a big bottle neck...
Well, then the SLP and Edelbrock y-pipes are a restriction as well because that's what diameter they are
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i thought that most of the Y pipes out there were 2 1/2? i would think that SLP's would be at least 2 1/2.. oh well.. nevermind...
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 11:55 PM
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I've owned both SLP and Edelbrock and they both connect to the stock dual cat y-pipe using stock diameter tubing. I'm pretty sure that diameter is 2 1/4". Again, I could be wrong.
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yea, but with aftermarket cats as big as 3in... i would think that they would start to make bigger y pipes.. oh well.. how big is the y pipe for the shortie hookers?
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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They're Accel/Lingenfelter headers. I bought them from a gentleman here on TGO. I think the y-pipe is 2 1/4".
Not to burst your bubble but those are SLP tri-y headers. It was their first design they put on the thirdgen firehawks. Not sure who told you they're accel but they aint. The only difference I can see is that the ones pictured have a common flange where as mine have seperate flanges.
http://www.transamgta.com/Webmaster/SLPkit.html

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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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Actually, they're Accel part number 74401. They've been discoed for about 10 years. Summit used to sell them for $749.99 coated. If you look you'll find some subtle differences between these and SLP tri-y's. The flanges are different and the y-pipes are a little different. I did a ton of research before I bought these. I'd say that both the SLP and Accel headers where made by the same manufacturer.

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Weird. I wonder why a company would sell the same headers to 2 companies knowing that they are rivals in the same market. Sounds like SLP might have just sold a bunch of Accel for the aftermarket and then decided to keep it in house. I'm 98% sure that SLP made those headers in house. It looks like those that you got were the second versions. The only reason I know that mine were made in house was when I had to get them repaired under warrenty. I live in NJ and drove down to Tom's River and the guy directed me back into the welding area where he had a jig setup for my header (obviously covered in dust from not being used for some time) and he welded up a few bad welds that were leaking.
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J, where in Nj do u live?
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cool, u dont live that far from me.. i live next to Asbury park/Long Branch/Eatontown/Freehold im in the middle somewhere.. but now im in Mass for school... anyway.. where can u find prices on headers from jet hot?
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Originally posted by JPrevost
Weird. I wonder why a company would sell the same headers to 2 companies knowing that they are rivals in the same market. Sounds like SLP might have just sold a bunch of Accel for the aftermarket and then decided to keep it in house. I'm 98% sure that SLP made those headers in house. It looks like those that you got were the second versions. The only reason I know that mine were made in house was when I had to get them repaired under warrenty. I live in NJ and drove down to Tom's River and the guy directed me back into the welding area where he had a jig setup for my header (obviously covered in dust from not being used for some time) and he welded up a few bad welds that were leaking.
Maybe Accel started selling these when SLP went to the 4-into-1 design header? I think these were available from about '92 to '95.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 06:56 PM
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Yes those are SLP Tri-Y's. I have them on my Firehawk and my GTA. They were made by SLP in house and it was their design. After the Firehawks in 1992, they went to the 4-into-1 design because the Tri-Y's were VERY labor intensive to make and even though they are infinatly better than ANY 4-into-1 header, people just wouldn't pay $1K for headers. SLP had a few dozen sets made and the ones that were left over the more than likely sold to Summit like they did with the T-Ram to get rid of their excess parts...
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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But can you explain the different flanges? Mine and every other pair of SLP try-y's I've seen have the individual flanges and they came with special exhaust gaskets. It doesn't make sence that they would stop producing them for labor reasons unless they were experimenting with ways to cut down the cost of production (single flange).
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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Who knows, maybe they changed the flange design after the Firehawks. All I know is that those are so close to the SLP Tri-Y's that I'd bet they are SLP's...
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Here's a link............

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...rchType%3DBoth

They are SLP headers but they are different from all known forms of the old SLP tri-y's?

I'm going to try and get in touch with the gentleman I purchased these from. Maybe he'll be able to shed some light on the issue. They may have been produced by SLP but I believe them to be the Accel/LPE headers.

I'd call and ask someone at SLP but i've never been able to get anywhere with them on any kind of technical question about thirdgen products. Calling LPE would also be a wash because Tim the sales rep has better things to be doing, trust me.
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Hey guys, I am the original owner of those headers. They were brand new and I got them from Lingenfelter. Those are similar to slp's but they were made by Accel for lingenfelter from the late 80's to the early 90's they are NOT exactly the same as the SLP's. The Lingenfelters were tested in a head to head test during the day to produce 7 more HP than the SLP's because of less restriction flow.
Lingenfelter and Accel discontinued them due to 2 reasons they were more expensive to make and cost more so sales were fewer than all the others, and they discontinued them due to this reason. Paul was right as they cost over $700 coated by jet hot and $500 alone.
BTW, you cannot have a 3" down pipe on a dual cat setup, the stock size is 2.25" and that is what these are, to really make extra power a dual cat y pipe 2.25 to 3" is needed......

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I have a hard time believe it's 7hp difference. That must be because it uses a dual cat setup instead of the single cat.
I've attached an image of the SLP try-y headers. Tell me if you can find the differences that = 7hp (assuming that's average hp in a powerband).
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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Yeah I call on the 7HP, sounds to me like that was LPE's testing results and not an outside sources.

I'm putting my GTA on the chassis dyno in a couple of weeks so if anyone wantes to send me the LPE headers I'll get REAL dyno restults on both...
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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Yeah, i'll remove my headers and send them to you so you can dyno test them. Guys, this really isn't that important to me. I like my headers. They're unique and from what I understand, they work well. I don't see any reason to turn this into a flame fest so keep the BS smileys out of it.
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No problem, I only flagged BS because I think LPE was fabricating the test results. As fas as I'm concerned they are the same headers...
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It looks like other than the flange, the secondary pipes might be different lengths. This could equate to less hp (torque) at one rpm and more elsewhere. It's so stupid so long as it's all in your powerband matched to the cam/head/engine blah blah blah.
To me they're SLP headers. Even the air pipes have the exact bends , I think that's a no-brainer.
Honestly I don't care if you consider this a valid topic or not but it's my hobby so it matters to me. I'll try and find out if SLP sold the jigs to accel or if it was the other way around. History is always interesting.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by JPrevost

It looks like other than the flange, the secondary pipes might be different lengths. This could equate to less hp (torque) at one rpm and more elsewhere. It's so stupid so long as it's all in your powerband matched to the cam/head/engine blah blah blah.
To me they're SLP headers. Even the air pipes have the exact bends , I think that's a no-brainer.
Honestly I don't care if you consider this a valid topic or not but it's my hobby so it matters to me. I'll try and find out if SLP sold the jigs to accel or if it was the other way around. History is always interesting.
Relax, i'm curious to know as well but it's not gonna keep me up at night. I'm convinced that they came from the same place. The fact is that these were sold under the Accel/LPE name. Does SLP still sell gaskets for these things? I blew a collector gasket out about 2 weeks after I installed them. Every time I show these to a thirdgen enthusiast they want to know where to get a set. I'm kinda proud of them:lala:
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AS was I, lol

Get some high temp material and make your own gaskets, better in the long run anyhow!
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Yes, they still sell all of the gaskets. The SLP gaskets use metal rings in their Y-Pipe gaskets...
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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AS was I, lol

Get some high temp material and make your own gaskets, better in the long run anyhow!
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That's no joke. Half of it was just gone and the other half was charred.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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Yes, they still sell all of the gaskets. The SLP gaskets use metal rings in their Y-Pipe gaskets...
These came with cardboard gaskets. I didn't think they'd last long.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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The ones I have are a metal type fabric like the one you use on the exhaust ports....
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