Flowmaster...specifics?
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Hmm, well both a 40 series and 80 series are going to be loud. The big difference between the two is the 80 series is going to be alot louder inside the car.
Also the 80 series has dual outlets, where the 40 series has a single exit.
Also the 80 series has dual outlets, where the 40 series has a single exit.
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Thats an option too. But if you want Flowmaster and you don't care if you have dual outlets or not maybe the Delta Flow 40 Series or maybe a 50 Series. If you want dual outlets the only choice is the 80 Series but it will be loud, don't know whether it would be for some1 not looking for loud.
I want it to sound deep but not loud, but above all with performance in mind.
Well if that's the case, I would look away from Flowmaster. Also, a lot of people around here say those aftermarket chips are nothing but a waste of money. -89IRO
Well if that's the case, I would look away from Flowmaster. Also, a lot of people around here say those aftermarket chips are nothing but a waste of money. -89IRO
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[HITHERE]Originally posted by 89IRO [/HITHERE]
HITHERE want it to sound deep but not loud, but above all with performance in mind.
Well if that's the case, HITHERE would look away from Flowmaster. Also, HITHERE lot of people around here say those aftermarket chips are nothing but HITHERE waste of money. -89IRO
HITHERE want it to sound deep but not loud, but above all with performance in mind.
Well if that's the case, HITHERE would look away from Flowmaster. Also, HITHERE lot of people around here say those aftermarket chips are nothing but HITHERE waste of money. -89IRO
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Originally posted by 89IRO
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if you want sound, then go with the slowmaster. if you want performance steer clear of flowmaster IMO. Go with a magnaflow or banks setup...they have the straight thru muffler design, all stainless steel, and also have a nice sound like a big block MOPAR engine.
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DYNOMAX!!!!!!! :rockon:
Quiet at idle, louder under acceleration, loud at WOT, and flow more than "Flow"master.
What more could you want?
Oh...... did I mention it's about 1/2 the price of Flowmaster?
Quiet at idle, louder under acceleration, loud at WOT, and flow more than "Flow"master.
What more could you want?
Oh...... did I mention it's about 1/2 the price of Flowmaster?
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1.screw the 'not being loud bit' .. i was just trying not to **** off my dad. i'll be gone soon anyway.. would the 80 series be ..true dual? i have a stock setup now.. would it require changing anything to get true dual?.. my brother told me that i have a single to dual, that it's not true dual all the way through.
2. would the 80 series give me the most performace of all of the flowmaster models?
3. bolt-on or weld? i saw the video on their site.. just curious.. not that i would want to restore it.. but i guess i want to know how much labor will be involved
i would recommend the flowmaster force II catback if you dont mind only having one exit. however, if you want the dual exits, the flowmaster american thunder catback is what you want.
Magnaflow and dynomax are nice IMO, but if you want all out performance, and a unique sound, and not to mention the best quality (I've compared them) then go with Spintech. You will pay like $20-$30 more for spintech than most (not including borla), but you also get a lot back in return. -89IRO
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If you go with Flowmaster, you can purchase the dynomax 3" mandrel bent exhaust tubing with twin tail pipes all seperate. Add the 3 " in and dual 3" out Flowmaster with the exhaust tips of your choice and have a sweet azz exhaust system and save a few bucks doing it. Or add the muffler you finally decide on. I have the Flowmaster on my system and I am not disapointed.
Yeah, a lot of people like flowmaster because it sounds good. Nothing at all wrong with that. Others, like me, don't really care for the drone. I prefer the cleaner, crisper, tone better myself. My buddy has dual flow on his camaro and you can't even hear yourself think inside of it. -89IRO
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how come every1 says the 80 series is so loud? I have the 80 series with edel headers, it still has the stock I pipe but I have a cutout for all out performance, but with the cutout capped, my car seems extremely quiet still. It sounds good, but unless Im at wot you can't really even hear the exhaust inside the car, if the cutout is open then it sounds umm well loud.
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Originally posted by fast86z28
how come every1 says the 80 series is so loud? I have the 80 series with edel headers, it still has the stock I pipe but I have a cutout for all out performance, but with the cutout capped, my car seems extremely quiet still. It sounds good, but unless Im at wot you can't really even hear the exhaust inside the car, if the cutout is open then it sounds umm well loud.
how come every1 says the 80 series is so loud? I have the 80 series with edel headers, it still has the stock I pipe but I have a cutout for all out performance, but with the cutout capped, my car seems extremely quiet still. It sounds good, but unless Im at wot you can't really even hear the exhaust inside the car, if the cutout is open then it sounds umm well loud.
I have the 3" catback with a 3" in 2.5" out 80 series, and its very loud inside. But im happy, because thats the way I like it
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how come every1 says the 80 series is so loud? I have the 80 series with edel headers, it still has the stock I pipe but I have a cutout for all out performance, but with the cutout capped, my car seems extremely quiet still. It sounds good, but unless Im at wot you can't really even hear the exhaust inside the car, if the cutout is open then it sounds umm well loud.
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For the absolute loudest sound you need 3" mandrel bent exhaust, good y-pipe, high-flow converter, a muffler that is made to be loud, (80 or 40 Series) and some power behind it. (a 350 at least if you don't plan on modding much)
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hmm..i have a 350, i have headers, with a 3" y pipe, no cat, stock i pipe and flowmaster 80 muffler, I figured that the stock I pipe was to blame but I figured it would still be louder than it is, oh well thats why I leave the cutout open most of the time
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Yup headers (you have them) and better I pipe help too. Engine mods will help too. I don't know what kinda loud you are looking for through an exhaust system LOL. Your setup should be loud, I don't know what your definition of that is though.
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I have T.E.S. chrome headers, a 3" carsound high flow cat and all the other stuff listed below and it's not all that loud. I doubt I'd get a ticket. I've taken off from a stop a few times next to a cop without any problems. But than again, noise is an easy excuse to be pulled over for.
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- 355ci, WS6, 5speed -
* Ported & Polished Cylinder Heads (Cast # 993)
* 2.02 & 1.6 Manley Pro-Flo Valves
* Harland Sharp 1.6 Ratio Roller Rockers
* Crane Valve Springs and Retainers
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#19 GPH Injectors running at 50lbs
* Exhaust All New
Edlebrock Chrome T.E.S. Headers
High-Flow 3" Carsound Cat
Dynamax 3" Exhaust Tubing and Tail Pipes
Flowmaster American Thunder Muffler
Chrome Tips
Stealthram being preped, polished and detailed along with #30 injectors and PROM burning equipment almost ready to go...
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You say that for an exaple flowmaster 80series dont flow as good as hooker but how much of a difference is there in hp on a almost stock 350? 1hp? i think that when you got a engine that makes some serious hp, then maybe....... or what do you think?
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Re: Flowmaster...specifics?
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but above all with performance in mind.
but above all with performance in mind.
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Originally posted by 90Formula-X-F
I have T.E.S. chrome headers, a 3" carsound high flow cat and all the other stuff listed below and it's not all that loud. I doubt I'd get a ticket. I've taken off from a stop a few times next to a cop without any problems. But than again, noise is an easy excuse to be pulled over for.
I have T.E.S. chrome headers, a 3" carsound high flow cat and all the other stuff listed below and it's not all that loud. I doubt I'd get a ticket. I've taken off from a stop a few times next to a cop without any problems. But than again, noise is an easy excuse to be pulled over for.
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I read this thread yesterday, then listened very carefully to mine as I drove home last night. I know Flows have a reputation for being "tinny", but maybe I've just gotten used to it and don't hear it anymore.
It isn't "quiet", but it isn't excessively noisy, either. Certainly quieter than the '57 (and the Warlocks DO sound tinny). I do wonder if I'm disturbing the neighbors when I leave in the morning, but I certainly don't try to.
I haven't seen any back-to-back dyno or strip testing of muffler, certainly not 3rd gen related. Flow bench may not tell the whole story, either, because exhaust isn't a continuous flow like a flow bench is. So, a muffler that flows more on the bench may not produce more power than one that flows less on the bench.
I would agree that the total system is important. I do have a cat, and mandrel-bent 3" pipes. I chose the dual-opposite Flow because I liked the look better than single 3" or dual side-by-side. I figured the 305 wasn't going to overwhelm it, anyway.
I don't know how much the Dynomax pipes would cost you, but I got the Pacesetter cat-back from JC Whitney, and Flow from Summit. It's not perfect (I screwed up and got a universal cat instead of a direct-fit), but it hasn't given me any trouble.
It isn't "quiet", but it isn't excessively noisy, either. Certainly quieter than the '57 (and the Warlocks DO sound tinny). I do wonder if I'm disturbing the neighbors when I leave in the morning, but I certainly don't try to.
I haven't seen any back-to-back dyno or strip testing of muffler, certainly not 3rd gen related. Flow bench may not tell the whole story, either, because exhaust isn't a continuous flow like a flow bench is. So, a muffler that flows more on the bench may not produce more power than one that flows less on the bench.
I would agree that the total system is important. I do have a cat, and mandrel-bent 3" pipes. I chose the dual-opposite Flow because I liked the look better than single 3" or dual side-by-side. I figured the 305 wasn't going to overwhelm it, anyway.
I don't know how much the Dynomax pipes would cost you, but I got the Pacesetter cat-back from JC Whitney, and Flow from Summit. It's not perfect (I screwed up and got a universal cat instead of a direct-fit), but it hasn't given me any trouble.
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You say that for an exaple flowmaster 80series dont flow as good as hooker but how much of a difference is there in hp on a almost stock 350? 1hp? i think that when you got a engine that makes some serious hp, then maybe....... or what do you think?
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The amount of horsepower that is involved between most good mufflers is not even the equivilent in what the horsepower difference is that 2 identical motors produce.
you run a converter, that's why it is quiet.
Yes, If you want to pass smog in California than make it look like it is 100% smog legal. Have all your paper work lined up. ARB stickers in place and then make it pretty. I left the cat on it and I do like the sound. I have yet to run my car since I went to the 5.7.. Still wanting some other mods too but I got to see what it does like it sits now
you run a converter, that's why it is quiet.
Yes, If you want to pass smog in California than make it look like it is 100% smog legal. Have all your paper work lined up. ARB stickers in place and then make it pretty. I left the cat on it and I do like the sound. I have yet to run my car since I went to the 5.7.. Still wanting some other mods too but I got to see what it does like it sits now
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I can tell you from experience that it cost me 7HP on a stock 305. As long as HP is not a concern flowmaster would work.




