so whats the difference between the hooker 2055 super comp shorties and the competition 2460 shortys? their website says both have 1 5/8" primaries and 3" collectors...so what gives?


is SLP the only one that offers 1 3/4" shorty headers?

 

yes, the 2460 do not come with a y pipe. The collectors are different and the 2055's are only available with air. And SLP is the only manufacturer of 1 3/4 headers.

 

I just ordered some 2460's from Dave Hamil at american coating specialties..

$261.00 shipped sounds like a pissah deal to me.. Hooker chargers $329.00 + shipping for their coating, which I hear wears off with the quickness.

Local exhaust shop said he'f fab a y-pipe for me (3") for 100-120.00..

Now thats $381.00 for coated 1 5/8 headers.

Reading about the 2460 vs 2055, I think the 2460 will flow more. The collector is longer than the 2055 which should reduce backpressure, also the collector is larger than the 2055 because the 2055 uses a ball flange.

-- Joe

 

Two questions. Do the 2460s have AIR and O2 fittings, and how do you get your car to the exhaust shop yor a y-pipe with open headers?

Seriously now, it would kind of attract a lot of attention to drive it there... lol

 

I'm a police officer..

 

realy your a police officer in lawrence.

 

That's great...

So how do you get your car in to an exhaust shop with nothing but open headers?

 

Im less than a block away from 2 shops I would jus drive.

 

Does american coating specialties have a website or something? How did you order them?

Mike

 

American Coating Specialties, 1329 South Houston Ave. Humble , Texas 77338. just north of Houston 281-446-6203 Email dhamil@texas.net

 

2460's have the O2 sensor, but A.I.R. is special order (put a "0" in front of the p/n - from Summit, that would be "HOK-02460").

The 2055 y-pipe is a sweet piece. The chances of a local shop fabricating one as good are pretty slim (especially for $120). You can resolve the ball flange opening issue by doing a fit check, then opening up the flange to the down-pipe ID, centered where the down-pipe meets (I asked Hooker why the opening was so small, they said to insure a good seal. Following the above, I've had no sealing problems).

I don't know who does Hooker's ceramic coating, but I've never heard any complaints about it on this board. You can order either header directly from Jet Hot, arguably the best outfit out there for the coating. If you get the 2055's from them, you can also specify to have the y-pipe coated. Since the driver's side pipe goes right under the oil pan, and the y-pipe is the most exposed of the header components to corrosive environments, getting it coated isn't a bad idea.

 

Why?? go with 2.5's to the y, out a 3.. Kinda simple actually.

Well I searched the archives on hooker and thats all I read about..

Jet-hot is suposed to be the best. But Dave Hamil @ american coating specialties has over 250 positive feedback's on ebay, as well as people on here. I've emailed several of his customers and asked about how the coating was, including 2460 owners. One of which responded has a 580HP thirdgen and said he was happy as can be.. Thats enough for me.

The 2460 is also a heavier gauge tube, so it should keep exhaust pinging down to a minimum, heat down, and last longer. Also, the collector is a little longer which should reduce backpressure..

-- Joe

 

Making a y pipe as good as the one supplied with the 2055 headers is a much harder task than you can imagine. Just ask around here to see which members could get a custom one made that will flow as good, and you won't find many, if any. I was under the impression that the tubing guage was the same, but I could be wrong, besides if you get them coated the heat issue is non existant.

 

If i could find a good shop to make a y pipe that will flow as well using the 2460's will probably cost me a little less then buying the 2055's from jet hot. My only gripe would be the Y pipe not being coated.

 

That's the problem. When people say it will be cheaper they are talking about just that, a cheap y pipe. I guarantee you it won't be mandrel bent and the exhaust morons will probably tell you 2 1/4 is the biggest you can go with on our cars which is a bunch of crap. If you want mandrel bent, you'll have to buy it pre bent from summit or jegs or somewhere like that, then on top of that pay them to weld it together for you, so in the end, it's more expensive and probably doesn't flow as well.

 

2 1/4 where?


I dunno about other parts of the country. We have custom exhaust places around here than will do anything you want them to. But we also have a lot of dyno and speed shops, numerious race tracks in the area. (which is all surprising for a region that gets like 3 good months out of the year for this hobby).

Anyway. I went to to shops, put the car on the lift and explained what I wanted. they said "Thats really easy". One shop wanted to do 3" from each collector, into a Y and I was like "no thats way overkill". Infact, they wanted to just dual all the way back to the muffler, but I told them I need it to y into the cat for emissions.

I'll prolly do 2.5 from each collector, which will be more than enough then go into a 3" to the cat.

The Y-pipe won't be ceramic coated, i'll prolly header wrap it like my current y-pipe. I could have it coated by ACS for 60.00$ plus shipping if I wanted to.

Paying nearly $700.00 for coated 2055's seems kinda stupid. For that money, you could go with the 1 3/4 SLP's. Though I also have reserved opinions about the ball flange on the SLP's.. Ball flanges seem like a good idea at first, but they really wouldn't flow enough for my setup.


-- Joe

 

You must have some good exhaust shops, cause the one's around here suck. Non mandrel bends and small piping are just a couple things that come to mind, not to mention idiot exhaust welders. I don't know of any exhaust shops anywhere near Virginia that would even attempt true duals. Sounds like you are lucky. Is yours mandrel bent? BTW, I just got my hooker 2055's in the mail today and boy are these things sweet! just by looking at this thing, I think it would be really hard for even the best welder, to outdo this thing. Seriously, the headers/y pipe are a work of art. Well worth the $350 or so I spent on them.

 

Can you send a pic over, a close up of the y-pipe..

-- Joe

 

I will have pics of everything soon. I'm just waiting on my flowmaster catback, offroad pipe, and electric cutout to get here. Then off to jet hot we go and I will post several pics. Trust me, this thing to me is amazing. The quality is amazing I must say. The welds are clean, the bends are perfect, everything is just awesome in 1 word, lol.

 

umm... I must be in bizaro Mass because the nearest track is Leb, and then NED.... if thats numerious... then my friend you should visit NJ! we have a gizillion tracks! And tuns of custom exhaust places? speed shops?.... Ive looked up and down 91 and have found BLAH!

Please tell me what shops you are talking about... I might just have to get my y pipe made up here.

 

Yes, we have Leb, Ned, Monadnock, Star, Hudson. I think thats enough, don't you?? I guess maybe you thought I was referring to just drag tracks, but I'm talking about race tracks in general.

Lou's custom exhaust in lawrence, low-cost exhaust in lawrence. They both said they'd do it, no kinks, for $100-120.00. Thats too just in my town.. 91 eh? Thats on the other side of the state. I can't speak for down there. I'm in the city.

Anyway, since then i'm thinking of running a slightly different setup (dual 2.5's back into dual cats maybe)..

-- Joe

 

this thread is worthless with out pics need pics of y-pipes out and installed

 

ttt