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Ok, my manifolds and especially my y pipe are beat to death. Since i bought the car ive always wanted to put some headers in but never though i could do it myself. This year ive been doing a ton of work myself to try to ensure itll still run for a while and i think i can do it now. So here are the questions
1. Im guessing i need headers equipped with the A.I.R to pass inspection?
2. Ive got 191,000 miles on it, plus its an LO3, so i would be looking for something just to take the place of the manifolds, get a little more performance, and somthing that may not have to last all that long, so i was thinking maybe something cheaper would work in my case??????
3. the harder side to get the header in is the passenger side if im correct?? Ive done an a/c delete already and i have heard that is one thing thats in the way, so im wondering if you may know anything major that would still be in my way.
I know headers are talked about all the time and i have searched so sorry if this is just repeating stuff.............
1. Im guessing i need headers equipped with the A.I.R to pass inspection?
2. Ive got 191,000 miles on it, plus its an LO3, so i would be looking for something just to take the place of the manifolds, get a little more performance, and somthing that may not have to last all that long, so i was thinking maybe something cheaper would work in my case??????
3. the harder side to get the header in is the passenger side if im correct?? Ive done an a/c delete already and i have heard that is one thing thats in the way, so im wondering if you may know anything major that would still be in my way.
I know headers are talked about all the time and i have searched so sorry if this is just repeating stuff.............
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Originally Posted by Chr1s46536
Ok, my manifolds and especially my y pipe are beat to death. Since i bought the car ive always wanted to put some headers in but never though i could do it myself. This year ive been doing a ton of work myself to try to ensure itll still run for a while and i think i can do it now. So here are the questions
1. Im guessing i need headers equipped with the A.I.R to pass inspection?
2. Ive got 191,000 miles on it, plus its an LO3, so i would be looking for something just to take the place of the manifolds, get a little more performance, and somthing that may not have to last all that long, so i was thinking maybe something cheaper would work in my case??????
3. the harder side to get the header in is the passenger side if im correct?? Ive done an a/c delete already and i have heard that is one thing thats in the way, so im wondering if you may know anything major that would still be in my way.
I know headers are talked about all the time and i have searched so sorry if this is just repeating stuff.............
1. Im guessing i need headers equipped with the A.I.R to pass inspection?
2. Ive got 191,000 miles on it, plus its an LO3, so i would be looking for something just to take the place of the manifolds, get a little more performance, and somthing that may not have to last all that long, so i was thinking maybe something cheaper would work in my case??????
3. the harder side to get the header in is the passenger side if im correct?? Ive done an a/c delete already and i have heard that is one thing thats in the way, so im wondering if you may know anything major that would still be in my way.
I know headers are talked about all the time and i have searched so sorry if this is just repeating stuff.............
I bought these, stripped and re-painted them today. Will be installing tomarrow, as I might be lucky enough to be running this weekend after 2 weeks of swapping engine's/trannies and exhaust yeah headers back and a few other swaps like a HSR intake...
As far as installing, I currently have the A/C unhooked, and a few heater hose lines out. I also deleted the air pump, that opened all kinds of room. So they both drop in easy from the top by just removing #5 and #6 spark plugs.
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Originally Posted by Chr1s46536
Ok, my manifolds and especially my y pipe are beat to death. Since i bought the car ive always wanted to put some headers in but never though i could do it myself. This year ive been doing a ton of work myself to try to ensure itll still run for a while and i think i can do it now.
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1. Im guessing i need headers equipped with the A.I.R to pass inspection?
2. Ive got 191,000 miles on it, plus its an LO3, so i would be looking for something just to take the place of the manifolds, get a little more performance, and somthing that may not have to last all that long, so i was thinking maybe something cheaper would work in my case??????
3. the harder side to get the header in is the passenger side if im correct?? Ive done an a/c delete already and i have heard that is one thing thats in the way, so im wondering if you may know anything major that would still be in my way.
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Coated headers
Y pipe too.
The installation will go a lot easier with the smog junk out of the way.
I'd suggest giving some consideration to replacing the OE starter with a mini while your at it... replacing the OE sized starter after a header and y pipe installation can be a bugger.
Y pipe too. The installation will go a lot easier with the smog junk out of the way.
I'd suggest giving some consideration to replacing the OE starter with a mini while your at it... replacing the OE sized starter after a header and y pipe installation can be a bugger.
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I just put hedman shorties and y-pipe on my L03 theres a huge post on it. No problems with the starter on that one at all. Removing the passenger side manifold is the hardest because theres a few bolts that you have to use a longsocket but then you cant get a socket on there. I used a pair of vice grips clamped to the socket for that.
If you have already passed inspection and if you dont have a visual inspection for SMOG remove your AIR componets. You will still pass emissions. A universal super converter will insure you pass even if your car isnt runnning quite right.
How far from York, PA are you? I could help you out if you want.
If you have already passed inspection and if you dont have a visual inspection for SMOG remove your AIR componets. You will still pass emissions. A universal super converter will insure you pass even if your car isnt runnning quite right.
How far from York, PA are you? I could help you out if you want.
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Originally Posted by Wadebryant
Coated headers
Y pipe too.
The installation will go a lot easier with the smog junk out of the way.
I'd suggest giving some consideration to replacing the OE starter with a mini while your at it... replacing the OE sized starter after a header and y pipe installation can be a bugger.
Y pipe too. The installation will go a lot easier with the smog junk out of the way.
I'd suggest giving some consideration to replacing the OE starter with a mini while your at it... replacing the OE sized starter after a header and y pipe installation can be a bugger.
Will there be any problems keeping the OE size starter once theyre in there because the starter was onme of the things i just replaced this year
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I hear some people use LT1 starters as a good replacement to a ministarter. My starter is as light/small as my friend's $150 mini starter on his iroc from summit - think mine is like 50 bucks new
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If you are able to slip in the header from the top do you stil need to remove the starter.
Also i see some people saying you need to remove the dipstick and some dont even metion it at all, do you always need to remove it?
Also i see some people saying you need to remove the dipstick and some dont even metion it at all, do you always need to remove it?
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Originally Posted by Chr1s46536
If you are able to slip in the header from the top do you stil need to remove the starter.
Also i see some people saying you need to remove the dipstick and some dont even metion it at all, do you always need to remove it?
Also i see some people saying you need to remove the dipstick and some dont even metion it at all, do you always need to remove it?
My OE starter took a dirt nap immediately after my Headman header and y-pipe install. Had to disconnect the y-pipe to get the starter out. Therefore I chose to go the high torque mini starter route. Installation was a breeze.
If an LT1 starter will work for less than the cost of a mini, that is a good tip and something that you'll probably want to consider.
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Originally Posted by urbanhunter44
I hear some people use LT1 starters as a good replacement to a ministarter. My starter is as light/small as my friend's $150 mini starter on his iroc from summit - think mine is like 50 bucks new
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Originally Posted by Chr1s46536
If you are able to slip in the header from the top do you stil need to remove the starter.
Also i see some people saying you need to remove the dipstick and some dont even metion it at all, do you always need to remove it?
Also i see some people saying you need to remove the dipstick and some dont even metion it at all, do you always need to remove it?
Trust me I tried.
As far as the dipstick I dunno, mine was not in the motor at the time, but it is also on the drivers side (again 83 block 383 here) but I did not see it being a problem on mine even if it had been there.
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Originally Posted by urbanhunter44
I hear some people use LT1 starters as a good replacement to a ministarter. My starter is as light/small as my friend's $150 mini starter on his iroc from summit - think mine is like 50 bucks new
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You can use your stock starter with the hedman headers. I used the stock starter even with there longtubes.
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