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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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who has a tsp rumbler or an magnaflow!?

Ok i need help deciding on these to cat backs. Magnaflow or tsp rumbler.

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=195&catid=46
tsp rumbler- pros - cheaper buy nearly 100 bucks, i already got exhuast tips, sound close to magnaflows, less common then magnaflows, cons - unshure about shipping cost, not as well known, no dyno numbers, exhuast could rust easier.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MPE-16829/
magnaflow- pros -cheaper then other places, love the polished look, proven to be powerfull (atleast 15hp/15tq), free shipping, cons - already got extra exhuast tips, more expensive, polished look requires upkeep.

Im not sure on what to do. would once a month underbody cleaning help keep the rumbler from rusting in oregons weather? What could i expect to pay for shipping of the rumbler? HELP! Also any (good) videos are welcomed of them. thank you!

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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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Re: who has a tsp rumbler or an magnaflow!?

Sounds like the extra $100 for the tips from TSP, puts the price the same at the Magnaflow with tips. In other words...With Magnaflow you HAVE TO spend the extra $199 on tips. With TSP you get a choice of tips or no tips.

TSP is a straight through bullet Magnaflow muffler. The Magnaflow cat back is a single in/dual out system.

Both kits give you dual exits out the back.

$236 TPS vs $464 Magnaflow...Or $335 (with tips) TPS vs $464 Magnaflow.

Is the SS worth the extra $$, where you live?
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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Re: who has a tsp rumbler or an magnaflow!?

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Sounds like the extra $100 for the tips from TSP, puts the price the same at the Magnaflow with tips. In other words...With Magnaflow you HAVE TO spend the extra $199 on tips. With TSP you get a choice of tips or no tips.

TSP is a straight through bullet Magnaflow muffler. The Magnaflow cat back is a single in/dual out system.

Both kits give you dual exits out the back.

$236 TPS vs $464 Magnaflow...Or $335 (with tips) TPS vs $464 Magnaflow.

Is the SS worth the extra $$, where you live?
so they are basically the same thing but the piping of the rumbler is just steel? so they should have very similar power numbers correct? if so im going with the tsp rumbler if it is basically the same.
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Re: who has a tsp rumbler or an magnaflow!?

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so they are basically the same thing but the piping of the rumbler is just steel? so they should have very similar power numbers correct? if so im going with the tsp rumbler if it is basically the same.
As far as I can tell.....The Rumbler is steel, not stainless. Even though my pipes are still gray after 5 years & not rusty.

When welding stainless, is the weld standard steel or stainless welds? If just standard, wouldn't the welds rust? I know you CAN stainless weld & polish the bead until it disappears, but who does that besides on custom headers or full blown show cars?

Single in/single out straight through Magnaflow vs single in/dual out Magnaflow.....I'd suspect the single in/single out straight through to be less restrictive/make more horsepower (not enough to be felt though, either way) to be made. But I also wouldn't really expect either to "make" or be a big restriction to a stock/mostly stock 305. I even doubt my TSP is any kind of restriction to my mostly stock 350.

In the end, I think it comes down to mostly choice. Straight through or crossflow sound.....Magnaflow/Flowmaster/Borla/etc. sound.

In the end, it is YOUR car. Which do YOU like better?

I have the TSP because that was what was put on my GTA, 1 month prior to me buying the GTA. I don't throw away perfectly good parts, even though I have thought about replacing the whole cat back with a side exit exhaust. Not because it is bad/worn out/rusty/or in any way needs to be. Just after 5 years, I'm looking for a change.

Lately, I've been able to make enough other changes to the car, to keep me happy & satisfied with the car. If you were closer, I might consider selling to you cheaper than the new price (obviously) & building my side exit exhaust.
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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Re: who has a tsp rumbler or an magnaflow!?

Originally Posted by Stephen
As far as I can tell.....The Rumbler is steel, not stainless. Even though my pipes are still gray after 5 years & not rusty.

When welding stainless, is the weld standard steel or stainless welds? If just standard, wouldn't the welds rust? I know you CAN stainless weld & polish the bead until it disappears, but who does that besides on custom headers or full blown show cars?

Single in/single out straight through Magnaflow vs single in/dual out Magnaflow.....I'd suspect the single in/single out straight through to be less restrictive/make more horsepower (not enough to be felt though, either way) to be made. But I also wouldn't really expect either to "make" or be a big restriction to a stock/mostly stock 305. I even doubt my TSP is any kind of restriction to my mostly stock 350.

In the end, I think it comes down to mostly choice. Straight through or crossflow sound.....Magnaflow/Flowmaster/Borla/etc. sound.

In the end, it is YOUR car. Which do YOU like better?

I have the TSP because that was what was put on my GTA, 1 month prior to me buying the GTA. I don't throw away perfectly good parts, even though I have thought about replacing the whole cat back with a side exit exhaust. Not because it is bad/worn out/rusty/or in any way needs to be. Just after 5 years, I'm looking for a change.

Lately, I've been able to make enough other changes to the car, to keep me happy & satisfied with the car. If you were closer, I might consider selling to you cheaper than the new price (obviously) & building my side exit exhaust.
ya im going be going with the rumbler but i wish i could find out how much the shipping is. iv also though of doing a side exhuast but dont know how much it would be to do that and it would loose the sleeper look to it. now i need to figure out what cat i need should i stick with the original idea of the 95 dollar high flow magnaflow cat?
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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Re: who has a tsp rumbler or an magnaflow!?

Before you buy a $460 catback, you can get the one from Bandit for $320. I know people want to keep it a secret, so keep it on the DL. I'd go Magnaflow, but once again, the choice is yours.
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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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Re: who has a tsp rumbler or an magnaflow!?

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Before you buy a $460 catback, you can get the one from Bandit for $320. I know people want to keep it a secret, so keep it on the DL. I'd go Magnaflow, but once again, the choice is yours.
ya much better deal then the other places defintly. im going call a exhuast shop and see what they would charge for a exhuast to be made and a high flow cat and to get them installed.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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Re: who has a tsp rumbler or an magnaflow!?

Originally Posted by wilkink
Before you buy a $460 catback, you can get the one from Bandit for $320. I know people want to keep it a secret, so keep it on the DL. I'd go Magnaflow, but once again, the choice is yours.
The TSP Rumbler (Magnaflow muffler)can be had for only $240......
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