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Old May 27, 2023 | 04:47 AM
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New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

Can finally upgrade the catback on ttop350. The smaller SLP exhaust has been on there since 1991 and is a bit of a choking point for my "stock" 350 engine ;-)
Hawks new totl catback. Hope to install it when i get some time soon. (the old SLP catback isn't the one from my car)




Hawks black box of goodness arrived yesterday

Old slp 3" x2.5 tails stainless and the new 3.5" x 3" tails side by side

Old tails and new tails

My friend Marty picked up a couple for his cars

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Old May 27, 2023 | 05:07 AM
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterdy

I saw that in their email and it looks like a quality set up. Keep us posted
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Old May 27, 2023 | 08:28 AM
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Keep us posted, following closely. post pics if you can when installed.
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterdy

Very cool! I thought these were still only available for pre-order?
How does it connect to the cat?
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Old May 27, 2023 | 09:10 AM
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterdy

Is the muffler a 1 > 2 straight through design like the original SLP?


SLP 2otL Two on the Left muffler straight through


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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterdy

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Very cool! I thought these were still only available for pre-order?
How does it connect to the cat?

They hit Hawks door 2 days b4 I got mine. Told Bruce to txt me as soon as his stock showed up and I'd order. My friend and I have the 1st 3 kits sold.
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterdy

Originally Posted by Thirdgen89GTA
Is the muffler a 1 > 2 straight through design like the original SLP?


SLP 2otL Two on the Left muffler straight through

Yes it is. Not built exactly the same inside but it is the same straight through idea.

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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterdy

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Very cool! I thought these were still only available for pre-order?
How does it connect to the cat?
Customer will have to fab an adapter to do that. This larger setup is really for higher HP cars
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Old May 27, 2023 | 06:55 PM
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterdy

awesome!!! I too am looking to go with this exhaust for my ls1 swap, excited to hear how you like it and if you could bless us with a sound clip! :-)
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Old May 27, 2023 | 08:42 PM
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Features look like the type of stuff Stainless Works does. Good stuff!
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterdy

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Features look like the type of stuff Stainless Works does. Good stuff!
Nailed it, and that explains the price point.




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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 11:06 PM
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterdy







Originally Posted by Thirdgen89GTA
Is the muffler a 1 > 2 straight through design like the original SLP?


SLP 2otL Two on the Left muffler straight through
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Old Jun 3, 2023 | 07:41 PM
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterdy

I wish this would have been out sooner, I bought a GMMG, would have gone for this had it been out last year. Looks great.
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Old Jun 7, 2023 | 03:17 PM
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

Wow, apparently I'm not getting the emails right now...

Getting ready to redo the front half of my exhaust, might have to try this in place of my Banks 2OTL.

What are the dimensions of the muffler?

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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

I'll bet the muffler interchanges with the LS7 kit so gives you an option of hidden exhaust pipe behind the bumper too.
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

Originally Posted by STREETDEMON
Wow, apparently I'm not getting the emails right now...

Getting ready to redo the front half of my exhaust, might have to try this in place of my Banks 2OTL.

What are the dimensions of the muffler?

Id have to measure it for exact numbers but its really close to the slp size
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Old Jun 10, 2023 | 02:30 PM
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

I saw this and wanted it but that price is just unjustifiable for no power gain, all appearance over the 3.5” exhaust I built only a couple years ago. I expected it to be in Borla territory but NOPE!
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Old Jun 10, 2023 | 04:32 PM
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How's that sound clip coming ?
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

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How's that sound clip coming ?
Haven't had a chance to touch it. I think I'm going to upgrade my 20yr old temporary Y pipe to stainless and get some slip fit sections to make this all the way i want it.
itll be a bit.
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

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I saw this and wanted it but that price is just unjustifiable for no power gain, all appearance over the 3.5” exhaust I built only a couple years ago. I expected it to be in Borla territory but NOPE!
Yeah, this isn't really for a stock ish engine its really more for the 600hp and up crowd. Maybe ill get there someday 😆
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

I wish this system had a 4" section before the muffler. I'm super curious to see N/A combo Dyno results. My dual 3" is beautiful, but murder to drive.
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

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I wish this system had a 4" section before the muffler. I'm super curious to see N/A combo Dyno results. My dual 3" is beautiful, but murder to drive.
When i 1st spoke to Bruce about my idea several years ago, thai told him i was building a setup like this with a 4" intermediate pipe and still dual 3" out. (I have it partially done).
we discussed the reasons for 3.5 vs 4 and it came down to power gain, cost, fitment and extra weight.
The gains from 3.5 to 4" were minimal if any on his higher hp cars. Ls swapped blower setups.
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

Hawks posted a sound clip of the new TOTL exhaust running on a cammed LS3 on their instagram. Sounds really good - might be a little loud for my taste at higher throttle, but I think I'm sold when it comes time for my swap this fall- originally wanted to go hooker blackheart but the headers being discontinued made that more of a challenge.


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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

Originally Posted by ughmas
...originally wanted to go hooker blackheart but the headers being discontinued made that more of a challenge.
Yeah. That was a real shame. It prompted me to arrange to preserve my current headers by going for a ceramic coating. And I can always do what TTOP has to do now and everyone else going forward and that's adapt whatever "cat back" you decide on and integrate that with whatever headers you've got (or get).
With a bit of luck, this Hawks deal's intermediate pipe might line up in the same space as my current Edelbrock single 3" does. It'll save some fab work as I've invested (heavily) in a Y-pipe to fit my current setup.
I'll wait for Mr. T's installation pictures. I'm in no rush...

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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

I called and spoke with Stainless works today about parts i need to upgrade the 20 plus yr old temporary Ypipe to stainless.



Cut, sectioned, and tucked the frame rails. Modified the factory Xmemeber to run dual 3" slip fit from headers into a single 3" to the SLP catback. Going to build a stainless dual 3" into a single 3.5" to match the SW catback.

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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

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...the 20 plus yr old temporary Ypipe...
Yep. It's ONLY temporary.

What I hope is that I wouldn't have to invest in another one of these.


From a collection of 2-1/2" Y-J stainless bends from Vibrant. Then Tigged together with Magnaflow's 2x2-1/2" into 3" merge. It's part of a complete system now from the headers to the tailpipe plus a modified OEM crossmember so it's tucked up as tight as possible.

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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

Some fuzzy tape measure pictures of muffler size




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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

Slow going. Have the stainless ordered to rebuild my 20 yr old "temp" Y pipe.
Slow going but I've started





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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

Boy, those twin tailpipe bends and contours sure fit the body well!
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looking great, any chance of a full pic of the rear of the car for perspective on how it looks?
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

Ill try and get one soon

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looking great, any chance of a full pic of the rear of the car for perspective on how it looks?
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

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Ill try and get one soon
What's your take on the straight out the back look vs the tucked up and down turn approach?
I like the downturned idea but my friends have taken to calling my car the "leaf blower". I think you know what I mean.
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

I've always liked a more heard not seen approach when it comes to exhaust.
The 4thgen totl has the straight back pipes which look good on that body style.
your friends are jealous..... lol


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What's your take on the straight out the back look vs the tucked up and down turn approach?
I like the downturned idea but my friends have taken to calling my car the "leaf blower". I think you know what I mean.
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

Originally Posted by TTOP350
Slow going. Have the stainless ordered to rebuild my 20 yr old "temp" Y pipe.
Slow going but I've started




Sweet, wish the original SLP tips fit like that.
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Old Jul 12, 2023 | 10:13 AM
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

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Sweet, wish the original SLP tips fit like that.


Mine fit nice up against the body

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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

I ended up getting the "factory style" dual downturn tip stainless works exhaust for my build, since 3.5" for the totl would be overkill for a stockish LS1 imo. hit my door today, I was more than a little disappointed to look in the first piece of tubing I pulled out of the box, and see that they did not back-purge the welds, and the inside has quite of bit of sugaring. I would have thought a professional stainless exhaust builder would back-purge everything.
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That's not good to hear.
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Old Sep 19, 2023 | 07:19 AM
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

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That's not good to hear.
Guess I should have asked, are you seeing the same thing in your TOTL tubing?
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

Originally Posted by ughmas
Guess I should have asked, are you seeing the same thing in your TOTL tubing?

i honestly haven't looked
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Old Oct 9, 2023 | 08:55 AM
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

For anyone who has this exhaust, i'm curious if it is overkill for a stock TPI? My future plans are a HCI 355, and i love the look of the TOTL. Anyone with any experience yet?
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 02:27 PM
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Re: New Hawks exhaust hit my door yesterday

Man can you post a video of the sound clips from that system, I am looking for a stainless exhaust for my 25th z28 TPI, Can find 0 sound clips of most stainless exhaust systems on a 350. Everything is ls swapped which is sad. Was debating the Borla system, hard to drop 2k on a exhaust you cant hear but if you can post a sound clip man i'd really appreciate it.
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