Turn your camaro into a Viper........
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
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wow, straight, you really don't know what your talking about do you? i'd take you on if i didn't live so far away...the car is nice lookin', but not a 10 second ride.
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Car: 1987 IROC-Z Camaro
Engine: 5.7 350 TPI - SLP Runners, AFPR, MSD Goodies
Transmission: 700R4 - Shift Kit, Corvette Servo
Axle/Gears: BW 9 bolt, 3.27s
Come on guys, tpi can run 10s.
with a 406 tpi, supercharger and 300 shot
with a 406 tpi, supercharger and 300 shot
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From: canada/montreal
Car: 1991 camaro + Dodge
Engine: 350
and i thought i was at the right place to talk or ask for help with camaro forums...this is
i show my old car picture at in the thread to show that not all third gen. camaros are beat to death and rusted and i get a pack of negativity ...??? WTF you know i was told ... that domestic drivers all have that im tough **** attitude....you know what there RIGHT
this is stupid ...Arent domestic guys soposed to help one and another and face the compatition???
AND I WONDERED WHY MUSCLE CARS WAS CALLED DOMESTIC.
i show my old car picture at in the thread to show that not all third gen. camaros are beat to death and rusted and i get a pack of negativity ...??? WTF you know i was told ... that domestic drivers all have that im tough **** attitude....you know what there RIGHT this is stupid ...Arent domestic guys soposed to help one and another and face the compatition???
AND I WONDERED WHY MUSCLE CARS WAS CALLED DOMESTIC.
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
muscle cars are called domestic cause they are made here in the usa, which is where we live. has nothing to do with a style or an attitude.
if your car runs low 10's, then why didn't you start off by saying "hey, these are pics of my car before the mods, but now it's got such and such and runs the number" but no, you just posted the pics and said what it runs. and it was easy to assume that you were alittle confused. as well as when you tried to make 188kmh sound faster than it is. still not sure what your trying to accomplish with your posts.
you really showed us your ignorance though when you said you needed to run diesel valve springs due to an increase in compression. yes, diesels have FAR more compression then gas engines, however, compression will have no effect on valve springs, valves, rockers, cam, lifters, or any other valvetrain component. valve springs are directly effected by cam profile and rocker arm ratio as well as valve placement in the heads. not only that, but good aftermarket valve springs are so cheap, that using take-out stuff from a diesel would simply be retarded. that's why i said you CLEARLY don't know what your talking about.
if your car runs low 10's, then why didn't you start off by saying "hey, these are pics of my car before the mods, but now it's got such and such and runs the number" but no, you just posted the pics and said what it runs. and it was easy to assume that you were alittle confused. as well as when you tried to make 188kmh sound faster than it is. still not sure what your trying to accomplish with your posts.
you really showed us your ignorance though when you said you needed to run diesel valve springs due to an increase in compression. yes, diesels have FAR more compression then gas engines, however, compression will have no effect on valve springs, valves, rockers, cam, lifters, or any other valvetrain component. valve springs are directly effected by cam profile and rocker arm ratio as well as valve placement in the heads. not only that, but good aftermarket valve springs are so cheap, that using take-out stuff from a diesel would simply be retarded. that's why i said you CLEARLY don't know what your talking about.
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From: canada/montreal
Car: 1991 camaro + Dodge
Engine: 350
there not take out valves...and i take it you assume that to...now to make it easy on ALL of you ....i agree i dont know what i talk about sometimes (strickly engine wise here) but in some cases yes....Thats why i got my mechanic of mine (buddy i know for years)i never dougt his work(only when we have a few beers) but in some case yes thats why when i was in net to calibrate his word i landed on third gen camaro site..figured why not post here since we all almost have the same car..Now before you go with the NEGATIVITY again look at this and keep in mind that "MACHINISTE B.J." know what were talking about and if you dont beleave that come see me 1048 simonne street , pointe-culumet , quebec J0n 1g5 we will talk!

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Oh yeah thats BEFORE I INSTALLED BRACKETS AND TURBOCHARGERS ETC..... BETTER??

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Oh yeah thats BEFORE I INSTALLED BRACKETS AND TURBOCHARGERS ETC..... BETTER??
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
mmk, i see a whole lot of edelbrock stuff, including performer heads (basically just a stock replacement head made from aluminum instead of iron). nothing special and nothing that's going to get you much better than a 12 second ride.
how come you just now mentioned the turbos? i'll believe you have them when i see it.
just thought of something...how many people, other than those on ebay trying to sell one, pose their engine on sheets and stuff for pictures?
how come you just now mentioned the turbos? i'll believe you have them when i see it.
just thought of something...how many people, other than those on ebay trying to sell one, pose their engine on sheets and stuff for pictures?
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From: canada/montreal
Car: 1991 camaro + Dodge
Engine: 350
jesus , if i did not mention TURBOCHARGERS ill get the not 10 s car bull**** again , read the thread from before i did not mention turbochargers and look what happen now i say and i raise suspition? WTF your just like my sister , say 1 thing then say another
....ok i drive a geo with a 82 hp engine and i get 12 s in 1/4 mile ....is that what you want to hear i dont see the use to lie and make stories up..and to go to the engine again..... look again or fantasize of whats in them....
Im done here and feed up with this bull****. Beleave what you want because its me driving it and i now , and last time i was at 1/4 mile i was at 10s.
And woundering you say performer heads.? right? Cam , Ported , Tranny ,turbochargers twin nos bottles .... all that you dont see nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooo its stock and i get 10s boy you must have a 900hp car cause my car goes 10 s and your faster or think im nothing.......
Thanks for the negativity.Im a liar and i race a Metro geo at 1/4 mile at neiperville (bad vocabulary) with 315 40 18 tires WOW!!!
Im DONE!!
....ok i drive a geo with a 82 hp engine and i get 12 s in 1/4 mile ....is that what you want to hear i dont see the use to lie and make stories up..and to go to the engine again..... look again or fantasize of whats in them....Im done here and feed up with this bull****. Beleave what you want because its me driving it and i now , and last time i was at 1/4 mile i was at 10s.
And woundering you say performer heads.? right? Cam , Ported , Tranny ,turbochargers twin nos bottles .... all that you dont see nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooo its stock and i get 10s boy you must have a 900hp car cause my car goes 10 s and your faster or think im nothing.......
Thanks for the negativity.Im a liar and i race a Metro geo at 1/4 mile at neiperville (bad vocabulary) with 315 40 18 tires WOW!!!
Im DONE!!
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
why the attitude? why the yelling? i'm just asking the right questions that you don't have the right answers for...which makes me think you have nothing.
my car runs 12.1's @110+mph with no real passes made yet, but i built every last bit of my car. after talking with you, i'm confident my car would walk all over your car.
my car runs 12.1's @110+mph with no real passes made yet, but i built every last bit of my car. after talking with you, i'm confident my car would walk all over your car.
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
Originally Posted by straight
The magic is the dome cylinder heads cam. ported and bored + balance never the less stage 2 performance chip tranny been modified...shes in the shop now for the touch up...and mush more..


ported and bored? the intake you have on there in the picture above is straight off the shelf from edelbrock, no porting seen there. and if you claim the heads are ported, then why didn't you port the runners on that intake, that would be silly.
stage 2 performance chip? wow, that's good. if you think that an off the shelf prom is going to do anything for a boosted small block chevy with tpi then you really are out to lunch. to really gain the full advantage of the motor, your going to be needing some serious prom burning/tuning equipment.
what about the tranny has been modified? and a $30 b&m shift kit you bought from pep boys doesn't count.
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that motor runs tens with nitrous and turbos? how come theirs no nitrous or turbos in that pic? or is that a before pic? wheres the 'after' pictures? of it in your car, with turbos, or nitrous, or even timeslips?
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From: canada/montreal
Car: 1991 camaro + Dodge
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ok guys ....**** i dont know how to say it but i fell like **** and ow you all a appology...i contacted my cousin was with me at 1/4 mile was 11 or 12 seconds apperently this is no BS im sorry for everything i dont know what else to say then your right i was an ******* i admit it..Now that that is cleared...Yes heads are ported runners are ported the Trottle body is ported stage 2 jet chip was removed due to turbo (reduces performance) im at 8 - 12 psi , dome pistons rings , bored and balanced , tranny has been modified 3:73 + diff lock torque converter , no need for pep boys when you got a programer , shift points changed , 315 40 18 rear tires 245 40 18 fronts camshaft , Msd 6AL ignition , race fuel (for now) , nitrous bottles (2) i try not to use it , wastegate , alluminum flywheel , alluminum driveshaft , lightweight pulleys , ...i think thats all ...
again guys
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i got a question , whats better long tube headers or shorty headers?
again guys
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i got a question , whats better long tube headers or shorty headers?
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From: Morganton, NC
Car: '92 T/A WS6 Vert/1956 Chevy Nomad
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700r4 w/ Transgo Kit
Axle/Gears: 3.42 LSD
Hey, straight ... thanks for putting it straight.
I think I figured out all the confusion! I bet 12 or 13 SAE seconds converts to about 10 seconds in the metric system!
I think I figured out all the confusion! I bet 12 or 13 SAE seconds converts to about 10 seconds in the metric system!
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
Originally Posted by straight
i got a question , whats better long tube headers or shorty headers?
another thing, dome pistons are used to increase compression. when utilizing forced induction you need to lower compression to be able to handle the increased cylinder pressure from the boost. so if you were going to change pistons at all, you'd want dished pistons, not domed pistons. high compression and boost equals at the very least blown head gaskets. (at the very least, i'm talking with you using big octane fuel and conservative timing) but more than likely means you'll be getting a good look of the inside of the engine with the motor still sealed up, probably from the piston that decided to exit stage right.
i'm normally not one to call people out, but your just spreading non-truth after non-truth, and i have GOT to stop you from doing so!
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From: canada/montreal
Car: 1991 camaro + Dodge
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yes i have a turbo headers with t3-t4 turbos .....was just woundering witch headers are better to suggest for my cousin because hes looking presently and im going to the garage tomorow ..? i ask again is short header or long tube headers witch are better where talking for a 01 mustang gt
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From: canada/montreal
Car: 1991 camaro + Dodge
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whoa whoa whoa .....now that i finished reading the hole post im a liar now.....why the **** you think my car is in the garage 1 of the reasons is a head gasket capoot but seen you told me why my gaskets poped for the second time now i know why...
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about the sound on the longtubes are they the same or different....
to go back to dome piston would you have any idea why my mechanic told me it should of not interfeer with it..? i see 2 reasons one would ill bring more money to him or 2 he plained did not know and im the first with that setup?
me and him are going to talk for sure...
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about the sound on the longtubes are they the same or different....
to go back to dome piston would you have any idea why my mechanic told me it should of not interfeer with it..? i see 2 reasons one would ill bring more money to him or 2 he plained did not know and im the first with that setup?
me and him are going to talk for sure...
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
funny thing is, i've never seen your combo, and i know enough to figure out your problems...lol...what a frickin' riot!
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From: canada/montreal
Car: 1991 camaro + Dodge
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thats funny man i was on here a few weeks ago as new member and i made like 30+ post in like 2 days , never typed this mush since i was in detention..back in the day...Im glad that war is over...smoke a hole pack within a few hours...
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correction 20+ posts
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correction 20+ posts
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From: canada/montreal
Car: 1991 camaro + Dodge
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not the first time i was told that....
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never thought that typing and reading forums can run rev you up even at 1 am and was planing to go to bed like 3 hours ago
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never thought that typing and reading forums can run rev you up even at 1 am and was planing to go to bed like 3 hours ago
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From: Browns Town
Car: 86 Monte SS (730,$8D,G3,AP,4K,S_V4)
Engine: 406 Hyd Roller 236/242
Transmission: 700R4 HomeBrew, 2.4K stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 Posi, 7.5 Soon to break
T3-T4 turbos, Oh never mind...
That's all I can do without keeping this going.
Straight, That IS a beautiful car but,
I smell a Viper
(just to keep the thread on subject)
Originally Posted by TraviZ
show us more pics!
Straight, That IS a beautiful car but,
I smell a Viper

(just to keep the thread on subject)
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
Originally Posted by straight
to go back to dome piston would you have any idea why my mechanic told me it should of not interfeer with it..? i see 2 reasons one would ill bring more money to him or 2 he plained did not know and im the first with that setup?
me and him are going to talk for sure...
i think you just answered your question with those two suggestions...with the second being the biggest thing.
also, the longtubes will sound far better.
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
Originally Posted by JP86SS
T3-T4 turbos, Oh never mind...
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From: canada/montreal
Car: 1991 camaro + Dodge
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im not in the states , over here where overruned with laws this and that ...he is worried about the DBs on it..guess hes got to verify comprassion or so..
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guess its a bad thing when i bought it off ebay said t3 t4 stage 2 turbo setup and look at pics there were all there ....i dont understand ..unless t3 is one kind and t4 is another ....i wont bite
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guess its a bad thing when i bought it off ebay said t3 t4 stage 2 turbo setup and look at pics there were all there ....i dont understand ..unless t3 is one kind and t4 is another ....i wont bite
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
Originally Posted by straight
oh man what dd i do now....?
grab your car, and your wallet, and run away...quickly. then get on the power adder board, read and search, search and read, and get all the info on the turbo applications you can. then go over to Welcome to Turbo Mustangs.com and read more, and realize how little you know. don't ask ANY questions until you have read for atleast two weeks, so you don't sound like some ignorant 19y/o....which is what you did here tonight.
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From: Browns Town
Car: 86 Monte SS (730,$8D,G3,AP,4K,S_V4)
Engine: 406 Hyd Roller 236/242
Transmission: 700R4 HomeBrew, 2.4K stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 Posi, 7.5 Soon to break
I'm on eastern too!
Good night and good luck.
Straight, forget about dB's and put some good mufflers and a crossover on it.
It won't be loud if your cruising.
If you stand on it in front of a cop, you may have a bit of a problem but that comes with any headers.
Good night and good luck.
Straight, forget about dB's and put some good mufflers and a crossover on it.
It won't be loud if your cruising.
If you stand on it in front of a cop, you may have a bit of a problem but that comes with any headers.
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
and again, compression will not be effect by exhaust either. only thing that will effect compression is the amount of quench in the combustion chamber.
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wow....this post if far from clear. When i see pictures i will start believe more of it.
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
Originally Posted by 7plagues
wow....this post if far from clear. When i see pictures i will start believe more of it. 

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From: canada/montreal
Car: 1991 camaro + Dodge
Engine: 350
what made it get to this now ....
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someone please explain cause i dont get it anymore ...did i get screwed or what?
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someone please explain cause i dont get it anymore ...did i get screwed or what?
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
Traviz wants to know what you lied about, what you didn't lie about, what you actually know about the car, what your mechanic friend told you, and what he didn't tell you, did you actually drive the car, etc. he thinks you made all of it up and wants to know exactly what you made up and what you didn't. and honestly, i'm kinda curious too.
"what made it get to this now..." you buddy, you made it get to this, cause your obviously not educated in this area yet, but you claimed you knew it all. plain and simple. you said you thought that domestics help each other out...well i'd like to think that most everything in the last few posts from me has been geared towards trying to help you out, instead of tearing you down like i was initially. that's why i told you what i did.
"what made it get to this now..." you buddy, you made it get to this, cause your obviously not educated in this area yet, but you claimed you knew it all. plain and simple. you said you thought that domestics help each other out...well i'd like to think that most everything in the last few posts from me has been geared towards trying to help you out, instead of tearing you down like i was initially. that's why i told you what i did.
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From: canada/montreal
Car: 1991 camaro + Dodge
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First off i never claimed i know everything , second this is true Mechanic told me to go with the diesel springs cause there stiffer than the others , also told me that dome pistons shouldnt of interfeer with the turbo and i cleary remember buying T3/T4 turbo stage 2 turbo kit for 2600$ for a 82 92 camaro setup ...TRUTH
Yes heads are ported runners are ported the Trottle body is ported stage 2 jet chip was removed due to turbo (reduces performance) im at 8 - 12 psi , dome pistons rings , bored and balanced , tranny has been modified 3:73 + diff lock torque converter , no need for pep boys when you got a programer , shift points changed , 315 40 18 rear tires 245 40 18 fronts camshaft , Msd 6AL ignition , race fuel (for now) , nitrous bottles (2) i try not to use it , wastegate , alluminum flywheel , alluminum driveshaft , lightweight pulleys
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From: Harford County, MD
Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
clearly cause the mechanic he's using said it'd be OK...why he said it'd be OK is beyond me.
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i got's one more question real quick...are you running those 315/40/18's on those iroc wheels? cause i thought they were only available in an 18x8, which wouldn't allow a 315 series tire...
also, a 315/40/18 would make that tire 27.9" tall...that's huge...
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i got's one more question real quick...are you running those 315/40/18's on those iroc wheels? cause i thought they were only available in an 18x8, which wouldn't allow a 315 series tire...
also, a 315/40/18 would make that tire 27.9" tall...that's huge...
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