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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by slick88gta
Get this through your extremely thick skull if you can, I KNOW YOU CAN BUY A CRATE ENGINE FOR THE PRICE OF AN LS1, OR EVEN BUILD ONE OF IF YOU WANT, BUT TRY GETTING THE SAME MILEAGE AS A LS1 AND DRIVABILITY. GET OUT YA DAMN TROLL IF YOU ARENT GOING TO CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO THE THREAD. YOU LOOK DUMB BECAUSE YOU LACK THE BASIC LANGUAGE SKILLS TO COMPREHEND WHAT YOU ARE READING. MAYBE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND BIGGER LETTERS.
If you've read my first post, which I'd be surprised if you could indeed read. My biggest pet peeve is people who try to spend more time on gas mileage than horses... That was simply my rebuttal to your sorry statement about how LS1's will be better than anything I could create and all that but whatever helps you sleep at night.
Just to keep on topic... keep a light foot. That's %75 of most people problems. I was getting about 9mpg on my dodge ram 5.9 until i took it easy and now i see about 13.5. synthetics help out a bit but it is very minimal. I saw an extra .5 while using Mobil 1.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nelapse
Just to keep on topic... keep a light foot. That's %75 of most people problems. I was getting about 9mpg on my dodge ram 5.9 until i took it easy and now i see about 13.5. synthetics help out a bit but it is very minimal. I saw an extra .5 while using Mobil 1.
Yea, I would agree with that. I am curious how much wear on the engine costs on mpg... If I ran Mobil one right after break in for 100K miles and in the exact same setup in another car I ran walmart Dino juice for 100K then switched to mobil 1, what would the mpg be with mobil 1 in both later in their life.

Mobil 1 claims nearly no wear at 200K miles (I believe I saw that in one of their commercials.) Would bearing wear increase friction noticeably? I suppose the smaller cam lobes from little protection might help mpg a bit .

Originally Posted by 83 Ccrossfire TA
- assuming that you’re playing on an apples to apples field (similar parts tuned for a similar range with similar tuning) the FI setup will always be a few percent better then the carbed setup, mostly because there isn’t really a capability to adjust midrange like there is with FI. Yes, you can tune a carb to be fuel efficient, but it will not be the same one that will make best power and that tune will only be best in a very narrow range compared to an FI setup

Tune a carb for a 14.7:1 at wot, and tune for mpg on bottom, good, but at acceleration (Even mild) you will dip into the WOT tune and waste a bit of gas. And if the chip is tuned right, The FI will always pick the best mpg for throttle, and only at WOT go for max hp ("14.7 theoretically")

Originally Posted by 83 Crossfire TA
Too much of a good thing… t56 cars are pretty unhappy with less then about 4.10’s in the rear in 6th gear unless you’re going REALLY fast. In my ’97 WS6 I was happy with 4.10’s, where with the current 3.73’s I rarely use 6th gear, even on the highway you have to be going quite a bit over the speed limit on a flat road to not be lugging the engine in 6th. 4.10’s put you at about 1600rpm in 6th at 65mph, where you’d be at 1100 or so with 2.73’s.
Ahh, I see, so great if he lives in germany near the autoban, or the AUTOBAD according to the VW radio commercials.

Good info in this post.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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My '94-'97 T56 with a 3.42 rear in my L98 IROC cruises happily along at 60mph in 6th on flat ground if there is no acceleration needed. If so, 5th works great at that speed. 6th at 65-70mph is okay with light traffic and minor acceleration, 75+ seems fine throughout without requiring enough gas to lug the engine (unless going up a mountain pass or something obvious like that).
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Old May 21, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tad1214
Yea, I would agree with that. I am curious how much wear on the engine costs on mpg... If I ran Mobil one right after break in for 100K miles and in the exact same setup in another car I ran walmart Dino juice for 100K then switched to mobil 1, what would the mpg be with mobil 1 in both later in their life.

Mobil 1 claims nearly no wear at 200K miles (I believe I saw that in one of their commercials.) Would bearing wear increase friction noticeably? I suppose the smaller cam lobes from little protection might help mpg a bit .

I wouldn't use synthetic anything in a engine with near 200k miles. Synthetic has those "conditioners and cleaners" which will clean away that sludge buildup thats actually keeping some old motors from leaking. I would switch to regular. Unless.... the motor was using fully synthetic from the start and reached 200k then I would keep using it. One thing I have noticed to work on an import of mine was "restore" its like liquid Zinc , I do not know much about it but supposively it soaks into imperfections and restores compression and all that jazz... I am not sure about all of that but in my eclipse it did get 1mpg better and it also quieted my "lifter tick" I was having. but for V8's it can get a lil pricey but I havent used it on any my domestics as of yet. However, even after my oil change the lifter tick didnt come back. Just something to think about.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 01:47 AM
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I convert all my cars over to synth after I buy them, that means as early as 500 miles on my WS6 (the point where I drained the factory fill), a few thousand on my wife’s car to 70-80K on 2 3rd gens and 150K on the truck.

Synth causing leaks and oil burning is a myth that hasn’t been true since the late 70’s, and as far as additive levels causing them, quaker state and pensoil dino juice have the most of the traditional oils but all the extended interval and high mile oils have more of those additives then your normal mobil 1 or RP…
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Old May 22, 2006 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 83 Crossfire TA
I convert all my cars over to synth after I buy them, that means as early as 500 miles on my WS6 (the point where I drained the factory fill), a few thousand on my wife’s car to 70-80K on 2 3rd gens and 150K on the truck.

Synth causing leaks and oil burning is a myth that hasn’t been true since the late 70’s, and as far as additive levels causing them, quaker state and pensoil dino juice have the most of the traditional oils but all the extended interval and high mile oils have more of those additives then your normal mobil 1 or RP…
I once had an old carbed 89 corolla, had like 180k I used fully synthetic and it started to leak like a **** after a couple thousand. Could be coincidence... but it does make sense in my opinion why it would leak that way. I do perfer syn though over anything else..
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