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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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electric power steering

does anyone have any info on electric power steering applications in 92 camaro rs with a 355, like is it possible, do any of you have it already?

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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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Re: electric power steering

Not unless you fabricate your own system. You'll never have a 100% steer by wire system. Too unreliable. It could be possible to have an electric power assist to replace the hydraulic system but there still needs to be a mechanical system.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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Re: electric power steering

late model chevy malibu's, cobalts and hhr's have electrosteer. i wonder if you could fab one of those systems into a f car? and how effective it is with the weight diff. im sure you could find some schematics on like alldata or chiltons or mitchell or something, but that would be a bad *** mod.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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Re: electric power steering

i was just trying to get rid of another pulley without getting rid of the power steering, have u seen an application where the mechanical is still there but is assisted by an electrically powered motor instead of the stock application we all have.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Re: electric power steering

Flaming River is working on something like this for street rods. http://www.autoblog.com/2006/11/03/s...ower-steering/ This shows what the box looks like. I don't have any more info.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Re: electric power steering

that looks exactly like the gm system. they have a big *** electric motor on the column and it hooks to the manual steering gear which looks like they all do. i think the power steering module is integral in the column and the system is run by a 60 or 80 amp fuse. i took training on it, but i have really no idea how it works, but i bet i could bs like i do.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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I like the steering box with the motor in it. I first saw this in a Street Rod magazine. I think it has promise.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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Re: electric power steering

I can find better ways to spend $3500+

You could probably install an electric hydraulic pump for far less than that to eliminate the belt driven pump.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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Re: electric power steering

The marine industry has an electric powered hydraulic pump which is used to add power steering to outboards running with hydraulic steering on them.

Teleflex makes the kit.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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Re: electric power steering

i looked at the teleflex and a few other places and i think i would probably be just wasting time and effort into this theory that has no proven track record of success in our vehicles, so the power steering pump stays......any idea how many horsepower power steering actually takes from a motor......this one will have an altenator and power steering, electric water pump, and no a/c
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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Re: electric power steering

i wonder if its worth any hp gains to maybe even switch fluid to something with the least amount of visosity. im sure someone probably knows the figures, but id be suprised if the p/s pump even took 2 hp to run.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Re: electric power steering

Originally Posted by jeff lucas
any idea how many horsepower power steering actually takes from a motor
When driving straight there's no pressure on the hydraulic system, zero HP. When you are turning the wheels hard, I can't see it using more that 5 HP at the very most but then at that point the loss of HP won't be noticed. When you stop turning the wheels, the pump goes back to zero pressure unless you're turned enough to be at the steering stops.

If you don't like the bulk of the pump, find an S10 with a 4 cylinder and power steering. They use a small power steering pump with an external reservoir. Fabricate mounting brackets for a V8.

NASCAR uses power steering in their cars with a similar setup.

Drag racers like me remove the power steering in favor of manual steering just for the weight loss.
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