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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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After bending the long bolts that are holding the ATI bracket I decided to build something stronger. This have been working perfect this year, along with a spring loaded tensioner. I also removed the lower "idler" pulley.



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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 06:38 AM
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Re: procharger bracket

Well since I've had belt slipping problems at high rpm with my 3.45 pulley (procharger spinning around 70-72k) I decided to try to built something better.

So far.........
Spring loaded tension
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Adjustable pulley that will give alot more belt wrap.
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I can make the slot for the adj.pulley a little bit longer if needed.

Will start with a 3.75" pulley since I also changed to a 8.25" crank pulley.
The 3.45" will give blower speed at 78k

Dont bother about the looks of the build yet, will make it alot nicer if it works
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 04:56 PM
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Re: procharger bracket

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Dont bother about the looks of the build yet, will make it alot nicer if it works
it's all good, the best builds start with function then work on form.

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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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Re: procharger bracket

Looking good. Ive always liked your build.

I need to do the same and Take off my bracket and make it alot stiffer for my novi2000.

would be alot easier on my build as I have nothing but the novi2000 hanging off the D.side of my LT1
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 05:31 AM
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Re: procharger bracket

Can't wait to see what I can copy from this. I don't have the ability to make a whole new bracket like that, but I do have a small MIG,, so I can make support brackets. Do you think if I brace the stock bracket, and install a springs tensioner, and maybe soothe idler, I can get rid of belt slip? I assumed that's what you are going for.
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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Re: procharger bracket

Well here it is on the car

So far its working good, havent done any WOT passes yet, this thing is a beast and I take the tuning slow step by step.

15psi at 5000rpm so far.................next time I'll push it to 5500 or 6000rpm....



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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 12:05 PM
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Looking good! I love the belt guard!
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Thx

Will improve the looks during the winter
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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Looks good!!! I think you should sell the first bracket... yes that was a hint.....
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 10:40 PM
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Re: procharger bracket

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Thx

Will improve the looks during the winter
I wasn't joking! I really like it!
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 10:48 PM
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415TPI FTW
what mpg you get and how much hp that setup do?
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ericjon262
I wasn't joking! I really like it!
There are some sharp edges around the nut

MPG....Not sure but according to TP I get 20mpg cruising at 90km/h, havent tuned for max milage so dont know if It can get better

HP...dont know.......
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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Re: procharger bracket

I have really watched your car over the years and all I can say is...wow, this thing keeps getting better.

I have been thinking of putting my P600B back on, really miss that blower!
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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That bracket looks awesome.
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 07:55 AM
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Re: procharger bracket

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I have really watched your car over the years and all I can say is...wow, this thing keeps getting better.

I have been thinking of putting my P600B back on, really miss that blower!
thx!

...over the years many things have changed

See what I will do this winter, chassie upgrades maybe? time will tell........
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 05:26 AM
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Re: procharger bracket

Did you modify the spring tensioner to suit the 12 rib belt or can you buy off the shelf ? Do you have the part number ? I have f1r and will not make more than 5 psi boost. Need more belt tension.thanks
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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 08:04 AM
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Re: procharger bracket

Hi

Well I modified my tensioner by adding a spacer, seen on picture, then I reused an 12rib idler puller from procharger. Had to make an adapter, there is pictures of it here somewhere in the spring loaded tensioner thread..

But It seems like there is a 12rib tensioner availible for a cumming diesel, see If I can find the part nbr again....
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 06:54 AM
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Re: procharger bracket

I was looking for Cummins part number , i found a thread with a international tensioner but only wide enough for 10 rib after mod. Any help would be great, i've only just purchased this F1R system in the last month and cannot stop belt from slipping . Very dissappointed . Thanks again
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 05:10 AM
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check this number from cummings 3043674....It might be a 12rib....
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Old Mar 1, 2013 | 03:42 AM
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compared with stock ATI bracket

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Still a bit rough in the design but think it suits the rest of the engine compartment

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didnt like the long bolt through the alternator so I modified it

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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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Re: procharger bracket

Too bad you didnt offer this as a kit. Sure a few people would buy it.....
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 01:54 AM
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Re: procharger bracket

the stock setup is not the best if you want to push some boost and I think a high stall speed convertor also put extra stress on the stock setup due to the quick rev up. I actually bent and broke the long bolts that holds the stock bracket when I hade 5k rpm stall speed

Making this was actually rather simple the most is made without any expensive machines/tools.

The only think I have not been abel to do home is to lathe...

/N.
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 09:15 PM
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What if you were to just switch out the aluminum procharger bracket for a duplicate one that is made of steel. Would that correct all the problems or does the tensioner still need to be improved upon?
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 12:10 AM
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Re: procharger bracket

Actually the P1/d1/F1 bracket isnt that bad. I made a new bracket since I would liketo have more belt wrap and didnt what to "destroy" the procharger one.

Everybody that has a procharger would gain from adding a spring loaded tensioner.

The custom bracket/bracing that holds the plate I made just because I bent the long bolts that holds the bracket in the original set up.

This was a combination of high stall and a misplaced spring loaded tensioner I think. When It flashed and began to pull the spring loaded tensioner made the belt toucht it self and snapped ...... But I would strongly recommend everybody to atleast think of mocking up something like this, its rock solid and a "bolt on".........
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 03:35 PM
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Re: procharger bracket

Love the bracket GTA! I'm really new to metalworking and was wondering how you made it? I'm guessing 1/2" aluminum, cut on a band-saw and welded with a TIG?
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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 11:59 PM
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Love the bracket GTA! I'm really new to metalworking and was wondering how you made it? I'm guessing 1/2" aluminum, cut on a band-saw and welded with a TIG?
tnx....

Yes 1/2" aluminium. Well since I dont have a big machine park I had to use angle grinder for cutting . Nothing is TIG welded on this, the adj.plate on the back where the pulley is attached is made of steel.
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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 10:12 AM
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Re: procharger bracket

Thank for the link to this.


Right now, I have one made out of 3/8" steel.

Was thinking of going aluminum..

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Old Oct 9, 2017 | 01:32 AM
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Re: procharger bracket

update

3.85" pulley 15psi at 5000rpm.

no slip, if I use a longer belt I can adjust the pulley down some and get more belt wrap if I need......

Anyone have a bigger pulley? Thinking at 6k rpm the boost maybe will be to high....as I see it know the 3.5" pulley wont be needed.....
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Re: procharger bracket

Originally Posted by gta324
Well since I've had belt slipping problems at high rpm with my 3.45 pulley (procharger spinning around 70-72k) I decided to try to built something better.

So far.........
Spring loaded tension
Attachment 365977


Adjustable pulley that will give alot more belt wrap.
Attachment 365978
Attachment 365979

Belt wrap with 3.45" pulley
Attachment 365980
I can make the slot for the adj.pulley a little bit longer if needed.

Will start with a 3.75" pulley since I also changed to a 8.25" crank pulley.
The 3.45" will give blower speed at 78k

Dont bother about the looks of the build yet, will make it alot nicer if it works
How does this work so far?
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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 05:08 AM
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No problems, only issue I've had is broke the woodruff key on the crank.........
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Old Feb 19, 2020 | 06:51 AM
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Re: procharger bracket

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No problems, only issue I've had is broke the woodruff key on the crank.........
Oh boy...

Time for twin key?

-- Joe
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Old Feb 20, 2020 | 07:56 AM
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I didnt want to remove the crank so I made a tool and "pinned" the crank like they do on Ls engines.....
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Re: procharger bracket

Originally Posted by gta324
I didnt want to remove the crank so I made a tool and "pinned" the crank like they do on Ls engines.....
I didn't realize that was a thing haha. awesome!

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