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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 03:27 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

I still would like to go with V10

I just found used Viper input shaft for $150, bell housing I already have .



Does anybody know what's the difference between Camaro/Firebird T56 and Viper T56 adapter plate? That's plate marked red on picture below.

I want to know if I buy Viper input shaft, do I need also Viper adapter plate or I can use Camaro/Firebird plate, eventually with some modifications?



Also, is it OK to put LT1 T56 behind V10 without any modifications (because a lot of torque), I don't use my car for drag races or something like that, just like weekend car
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

The viper t56 has a longer output shaft. You will need to change it. The lt1 t56 will handle the stock gen1 viper motor if you don't have crazy tires and beat on it. You could get a custom input shaft made longer. Then make a spacer that has your lt1 bolt pattern an viper bolt pattern.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

First, how short is the shat thats in the transmission ?
How long is the one for a viper transmission ?
Will the T56 you have bolt up to the vipers bellhousing ?
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 11:01 PM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Input shaft is shorter at least 2-2.5"

Yes, my T56 is bolt on Vipers bellhousing
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 02:01 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

get the viper input shaft, have it swapped in, and drop the trans in with a cross member mounted tq arm and call it a day.

leave the complicated thoughts to figuring out how to cram a v10 under the hood.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 03:13 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

But what about adapter plate? Adapter plate is not the same as Vipers. I doubt that Camaros clutch slave cylinder will be long enough to move the Vipers clutch
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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On board!
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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Just a few pictures to update a thread



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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

quite possibly the only GTA with a v10 in the world, and yellow too! amazing, can't wait to see the finished product
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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It's comming along great.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 12:39 AM
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it was originally red, but i think you should leave it red inside (unoticed of course lol) but yes great car and gonna be amazing
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 12:47 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Didn't catch what they are, but in post #10 what rims are those? Fricken love them.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Shone, Private msg 85MikeTPI and get his attention. He's a crackhead with t56 questions from what i remember. Or you could ask a side post in the trans forum about your problem.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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mike built the t56 thats been in my car for a few years now
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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Didn't catch what they are, but in post #10 what rims are those? Fricken love them.
i believe there bmw rims, you are referring to the ones he has on his car right?
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Old Mar 26, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Originally Posted by shone190
I just found used Viper input shaft for $150, bell housing I already have .

Does anybody know what's the difference between Camaro/Firebird T56 and Viper T56 adapter plate? That's plate marked red on picture below.

I want to know if I buy Viper input shaft, do I need also Viper adapter plate or I can use Camaro/Firebird plate, eventually with some modifications?

Also, is it OK to put LT1 T56 behind V10 without any modifications (because a lot of torque), I don't use my car for drag races or something like that, just like weekend car
The viper input shaft has different gear tooth mesh than any other T56. You need to make sure you get the ultra-rare viper countershaft to mate with your viper input shaft or you'll have issues.

The '93 LT1 T56 you have should just get resold immediately. The viper only came in the MM6 gear set and the M28/M29 gears in the '93 will need 80% of the internals replaced to work with the viper input/counter. (The '93 is only rated for 350-400 lbft of TQ, while the vipter T56 is rated for 550)

The viper front plate has the slave bolts clocked differently for the viper slave cylinder. You'll need to change over to the viper front plate in order to use the longer viper slave to get you the reach you'll need. (Or go to an aftermarket hyd slave like McLeod that you can space out from the plate)

All said, dump all the T56 stuff you've gotten so far and look for a real viper T56. You'll be ahead in the long run.

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Old Mar 26, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Thanks a lot 85MikeTPI

I figure it out a few days ago, so it's better option for me to buy complete Viper T56.

For now, I'll put this LT1 and T56 in GTA, so when I collect enough money for Viper T56, then I'll put V10

Wheels are some brand name King from Germany and originally came on BMW.
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Old Mar 26, 2012 | 01:16 PM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Today I removed some parts from LT1 Camaro (rear discs, calipers, pads, and Eibach coil springs with KYB shocks).

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Old Mar 27, 2012 | 08:51 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

The LT-1 Camaro looked like it was in good shape... Why did you not just fix that car?
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Old Mar 27, 2012 | 09:29 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Because I don't like 4th gen that much , and this is USA car and I can't register it in my country, there is no legal way to import and register foreign car which is 20 years old
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Old Mar 27, 2012 | 09:52 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

One more nice part from Camaro, 3" exhaust with two 2,5" pipes at the end

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Old Mar 27, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

i think u can fit a t56 6 speed on the v10
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Old May 10, 2012 | 03:52 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

I worked on the car in the last month.



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Old May 10, 2012 | 04:01 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

LT1 is in the car.



T56 also with a custom "first half" of tranny crossmember


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Old May 10, 2012 | 04:08 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Here You can see a big weight difference between LT1/T56 and L98/700R4.




LT1 Engine harness.



I removed complete enteriour, painted all in black and I'll put only front seats. If anybody wants to know, all enterior I removed weight 220lbs/100kg


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Old May 10, 2012 | 04:12 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Rear shocks and springs.


Stock rear discs vs LT1 discs.


Custom brackets for rear calipers, I couldn't use Camaro's brackets because I have 9 bolt BW.


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Old May 10, 2012 | 04:15 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Front LT1 brakes conversion.





Custom made brackets.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 04:17 AM
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Old May 10, 2012 | 04:22 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Some parts came from USA


As I read here, there is no way to use stock LT1 exhaust manifolds in 3rd gen, but that's possible in my case , everything fit great.



A/C eliminator is here.


Belt is mounted.


Mess with harness begin

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Old May 10, 2012 | 04:25 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Old stock fans with custom brackets out, 4rd gen fans with 3rd gen radiator in

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Old May 10, 2012 | 04:26 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA :)

Some more modifications with LT1 stuff



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Old May 10, 2012 | 05:55 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA (LT1/T56 for the beginning)

Did you by any chance make a dimensioned sketch of the backing plate for your 9 bolt???
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Old May 10, 2012 | 07:02 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA (LT1/T56 for the beginning)

Yes I did

Do You need it?
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Old May 10, 2012 | 07:15 AM
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Re: V10 in my GTA (LT1/T56 for the beginning)

Can you post it? I could measure some spare brackets I have but if you have the datums that would be awesome, need to fab a custom rbacket for Z06 rear calipers on my 9 bolt
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Old May 10, 2012 | 07:36 AM
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Nice... Im guessing you are not married?
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Old May 10, 2012 | 07:41 AM
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Hahhaha, no but I live with my girlfriend and we are in relationship for 13 years, so as I am

@Twin_Turbo
Off course, I'll post it for a weekend.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 08:31 AM
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so you're not putting a v10 in? doing a LT1 swap instead?
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Old May 10, 2012 | 08:32 AM
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That's it, for now off course
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