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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 08:16 AM
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1986 factory 350 issue put to rest!

I sent an email to Scott Settlemire at GM. For those of you that do not know who he is, he is the Corvette/Camaro Brand Manager in Detroit for Chevrolet. He is also an avvid Camaro guy and loves the car as much as some of us. There are history issues that he does not know, but he has the resources to find the answer. I asked him about the potential for an 86 350 car being built and being available to the public. Here is our correspondence:

Scott,
I need to know who I can talk to at GM regarding the past history of 3rd gen Camaros. Many people have said they own an 86 350 IROC. We have yet to prove the existance of *ANY* 86 350's that came from the factory and put into the publics hands. Are there any such beasts and if so, how many?

Scott Moyer
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Northstar Camaro Club of MN

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Our records do not show any 350 IROCs being built for the public.....IF you can get a VIN, I would be pleased to research it!

Scott Settlemire
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 01:22 PM
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Yeah but the guy on here that claimed he had one said it was a test mule; not a factory built piece.
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 02:01 PM
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THANK ***!!! Maybe this topic will FINALLY go away!!

Thanks Scott!

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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by iroc22
Yeah but the guy on here that claimed he had one said it was a test mule; not a factory built piece.
But if you read what Scott said, he claims that none were built for the public. The guy that said he has a test mule is a public person. He worked for the testing facility, not GM. That makes him public.
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 04:23 PM
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by scottmoyer


But if you read what Scott said, he claims that none were built for the public. The guy that said he has a test mule is a public person. He worked for the testing facility, not GM. That makes him public.
Yeah none were built for the public. That one was built for testing. GM however would know if it was released to him though because they own the car.
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Old Aug 6, 2002 | 07:28 PM
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yup, he says for the public, he didnt say at all......
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 07:12 AM
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I could be standing here with the VIN of every thirdgen ever produced as proof, and the debate would still never go away. Everybody thinks their car is some kind of hot **** and better than everybody elses. Mine has the ultra-rare-only-sold-to-italian-immigrants-that-worked-for-the-head-of-GM-on-tuesdays chrome plated disco ball option and you can't prove it doesn't!
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Jim85IROC
... ultra-rare-only-sold-to-italian-immigrants-that-worked-for-the-head-of-GM-on-tuesdays chrome plated disco ball ...

Hey! Mine had that. I think the RPO code was WOP.
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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Has anyone been able to get any info on what happened to these cars. Can Scott Settlemier confirm that there were indeed 50 of them produced for testing?If there were what happened to them(although we hear most were crushed right?)
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Jim85IROC
I could be standing here with the VIN of every thirdgen ever produced as proof, and the debate would still never go away. Everybody thinks their car is some kind of hot **** and better than everybody elses. Mine has the ultra-rare-only-sold-to-italian-immigrants-that-worked-for-the-head-of-GM-on-tuesdays chrome plated disco ball option and you can't prove it doesn't!
Hey I dont believe it one bit and Im sure you remember me in that thread. I'm just playing the devil's advocate
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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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As long as there are third gen owners, and past owners, this debate will continue




...NEVER to die....






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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 01:01 AM
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I dont know which one is more ridiculous. This one or the 350's with 5-speeds one.

They're both BS.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 01:24 AM
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hey i have an 86 with a 350 and a 5spd , so it didnt come from the factory but i live in the public
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 01:16 AM
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There were 50 Test mules of the 350s in 86. If there were any released out they were sold as USED cars only.

Yes I read what Scott Settlemire Said.
Something else Scott Settlemire is not the Brandmanager he is the Asst Brandmanager lol.
Hes a great person to get to know & loves being around car ppl & Camaro lovers. I should know I met him 2 yrs ago in person.
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 01:40 AM
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As was mentioned before, test mules were not released to the public. They did not meet safety standards and are illegal to be sold because of this. That's why car manufacturers usually crush these cars after testing.

Also, I know he is the Asst. Brand Manager, I was just using fewer words to describe who he is. As far as anyone is concerned, he IS Mr. Camaro, the FBodfather! Yes, he is a great guy and I too know him personally. It's actually kind of nice when he recognizes your voice on a radio show and knows who you are!!
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by scottmoyer
As was mentioned before, test mules were not released to the public. They did not meet safety standards and are illegal to be sold because of this. That's why car manufacturers usually crush these cars after testing.

Also, I know he is the Asst. Brand Manager, I was just using fewer words to describe who he is. As far as anyone is concerned, he IS Mr. Camaro, the FBodfather! Yes, he is a great guy and I too know him personally. It's actually kind of nice when he recognizes your voice on a radio show and knows who you are!!
LOL Some of the PNWCC guys go down to see him every year at Indy. Heck who you think has the #2 2002 Brickyard Pace car??? GM has #1 & We got two guys in our club that has #3 & #7 lol.

He gave me a bear hug the day we met & I was driving my firebird at the track for dragracing & He brough a 2000 Camaro cop car to race it & it rained on us but I still have pic of him behind me with lights on.
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 04:37 PM
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are you 2 done trying to impress each other now? j/k
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 04:38 PM
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are you 2 done trying to impress each other now? j/k
NO :nono:
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 12:59 PM
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Check out the Movies section on the main page.Someone put up an old video from MotorweekTV about the 1986 IROC and they said that they have a 350 in there. ODD!
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 01:04 PM
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Heck on Sunday I saw a 88 (or was it a 89) Iroc with a 350 in it Not uncommon. But It did have a stock 5sp in her. It was one of 25 cars that were made as Test mules. The owner Did Order the car from the dealer ship as well. It still holds its Build sheet, & everything else. all numbers Matched to when i checked out the vin & stuff & the RPO codes on the car
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by 91Zman
Check out the Movies section on the main page.Someone put up an old video from MotorweekTV about the 1986 IROC and they said that they have a 350 in there. ODD!
I am sure that car is long gone.

But it did have a 350.

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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 08:01 PM
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oh yeah,
well my Factory '86 IROC has a 350 and 5sp
- AND ITS A VERT !




and it's white with black 25th anniversary stripes
and 1LE with rear drum brakes
RPO code is IBJ/K N

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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by Krazzycowgirl
Heck on Sunday I saw a 88 (or was it a 89) Iroc with a 350 in it Not uncommon. But It did have a stock 5sp in her. It was one of 25 cars that were made as Test mules. The owner Did Order the car from the dealer ship as well. It still holds its Build sheet, & everything else. all numbers Matched to when i checked out the vin & stuff & the RPO codes on the car
Was this post made as a joke?
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Old Aug 19, 2002 | 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by iroc22


Was this post made as a joke?
Sure looks like it.

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Old Aug 19, 2002 | 01:05 AM
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No it was not made as a joke. The car was at our car show last week & He still had his information on his window
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Old Aug 19, 2002 | 01:27 AM
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I thought test mules were not assigned a VIN and could not be sold.
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Old Aug 19, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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I think you will find that ALL cars will have a vin that are made by GM... Muels, Prototypes, etc, they might not be in the usual place (under the windshield) but they will probably be there for identification purposes. What would happen if GM made 50 test mules and they needed to know why car x blew its motor, they would want to know what EXACTLY that car has been through and why it broke.

its for identification...

John
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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by Krazzycowgirl
No it was not made as a joke. The car was at our car show last week & He still had his information on his window
Oh man I really dont know what to say.
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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 01:06 PM
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If I remember right he either took First place or runner up (lol there was 3 cars in stock class & my car didnt get chit) in the 3rd Gen stock class. as soon as i find out more I will let you know. The car has been babied alot.
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Re: 1986 factory 350 issue put to rest!

Originally Posted by Krazzycowgirl
If I remember right he either took First place or runner up (lol there was 3 cars in stock class & my car didnt get chit) in the 3rd Gen stock class. as soon as i find out more I will let you know. The car has been babied alot.
Well, was it the car you thought it was?
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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Re: 1986 factory 350 issue put to rest!

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Well, was it the car you thought it was?
this was like 8yrs ago
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Re: 1986 factory 350 issue put to rest!

Originally Posted by Krazzycowgirl
this was like 8yrs ago
Oh, that's fine. I was reading the thread and wondering if you ever found out about the car since you never posted after your last post.
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