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Old May 16, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Car: 91 formula
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am i wrong to take off my formula decals

i was thinking of taking off my formula decals on my doors and on the bumpers as well as teh sail panel birds

i know that this is not correct and my bird will then look like a base model...

but what ways will i have of proving it is a real formula to some kid if i ever go to sell it and dont have the decals on it ?

i know that the ws6 is a apart of it, but what are the other options that make my formula a formula

this is the list of the stuff tha ti know came on formulas

bulge hood
ws6
16" formula wheels
aero wing
no gfx or fogs

i kind of want to make it like the californa iroc's with no badges
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Old May 16, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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if i ever get new paint i was thinking about going decal less. i think it would look good.

i think the big thing that gives the formula the look is the hood.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
I personally like the decals... Call me old school... But What made the Formula look like a Formula is the 16" rims, hood & rear spoiler, The other thing was the WS6 suspension, but if you have an RPO sheet then it would have all the appropriate decals for the Formula...

John
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Old May 17, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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Car: 1987 Formula (original owner)
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Go decal-less!!! Mine have been off since the car was new. Graphics, decals, two-tone paint schemes(WX1 two-tone delete)... they're just not my style. IMO, cars look much better without "advertising."

If anything, the lack of decals will be a nice disguise--especially if the engine's a 350.

And if I were repainting and I HAD to have the graphics again, I'd at least have them painted on the match the factory look. That would be cool. But I'd feel like I was ruining the new paint job by putting stickers on it.

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Old May 17, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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Personally I like the decals, but if you run the vin # it will come up with your car as a formula so you don't have to worry about that.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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Car: 91 formula
Engine: 305
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its just a 305... but its getting some more power hopefully soon..


i think i am goign to take them off, i just need to find time to be able to do it with out wrecking the paint...
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Old May 17, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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Car: Red 87 IROC-Z28 T-Top
Engine: 5.7 Tuned Port Injection
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
Axle/Gears: BW 9-Bolt 3.27
Leave them on! It's a Formula.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8
Leave them on! It's a Formula.
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Exactly, be proud of your Formula.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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Car: 1987 Formula (original owner)
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I've very proud of my Formula. It's the gawdy, awful, crappy, cheap, tacky-looking graphics that I'm not proud of. Pontiac designed these cars nearly flawlessly, as far as I'm concerned. There's very very little I'd change--EXCEPT the graphics. Did they really have to let a kindergarten class design the graphics?

The car stands very proudly obviously a Formula without those dopey graphics!
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Old May 17, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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Leave them on! I would never take them off.
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Old May 18, 2004 | 02:43 AM
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Car: 1990 GTA and 83,99,02 Trans Am WS6
Engine: 350 TPI,CrossFire 305 and LS1
Transmission: 4L60 and 700R4 and 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 90-3.23,83-3.42,99-3.73,02-3.42
Originally posted by LAFireboyd
There's very very little I'd change--EXCEPT the graphics.

I would leave the decals on the car I like the way the Formula's look but there is one more thing I would have to change on the Formula's (87-90), it would be the bumbers with those stupid black things in the front and back, I never understood the point of those.
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Old May 18, 2004 | 07:15 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Heh, I like the little black bumpers... funny... It adds a little accent to them.

BTW, the VIN will not tell you wether or not its a Formula, unless you have an original TPI engine.

John
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Old May 18, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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Car: 1987 Formula (original owner)
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I didn't like those bumper pads when they first came out either, but they've come in handy a few times over the years.

I've watched service "techs" back my car into others when parking it, and I've occaissionally found a car parallel parked into mine. And there's been a time or two when someone doesn't quite get stopped in time, for whatever reason.

Believe me, I've become a big fan of those little pads. They've saved my paint on more than one occaission. :hail:
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Old May 18, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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Car: 87 IROC-Z
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: automatic
Axle/Gears: 3.23
I would leave them on.

I took the tuned port injection decals off my GFX's, because whoever repainted the GFX's put the new decals on really crooked. I figuired I'd just leave them off and it would look good. But it didn't, I ended up buying new decals and putting them on.

At least i managed to get the new ones on straight, unlike the bodyshop!
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Old May 19, 2004 | 07:44 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
WITH decals
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Old May 19, 2004 | 07:44 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
decals delete.. notlikinit... too plain

John
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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Car: 91 formula
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i think i am going to settle in the middle...

take the decal off the back bumper and the sail panel birds and leave teh formula's on the door
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Old May 19, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Besides the Door decals are the expensive ones, the bumper and sail panel decals are cheeper... or at least they were when I did my car in 1998.

John
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Old May 19, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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When I got my 91 Formula the 'R' was gone off one door and there was a rust spot on the other door close to the formula badge. Rather than look hideously gay I had the body shop remove both badges. Previous body work had removed the 5.7 Liter FI badging, so all that remained were the sail panel birds and the tiny Formula badge on the back bumper.

I drove it that way for about 2 years, never got any compliments. Only got raced by Dodge Neon's, harrassed by Honda's, etc... After that I replaced the decals and did some other rather minor exterior refurbishing and now the car gets a lot of looks, no harrassment, challenges from 5.0 Mustangs and the faster imports, etc... Quite the change.

Formula's without the badging look extremely bland. The lighter colors are worse about it then the dark colors. Keep it accurate and enjoy the car.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Car: Red 87 IROC-Z28 T-Top
Engine: 5.7 Tuned Port Injection
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
Axle/Gears: BW 9-Bolt 3.27
Yup, makes them stand out more and not look like regular base Firebirds.

Drew, did you put the 350 stickers back on too?
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Old May 20, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
To me its kind of the difference between the Z28 & an IROC-Z, I know not all IROC's came with the decals, but I really like the way the decals sets them apart.

John
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Old May 21, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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I vote to leave them on also. After I re-paint, the full factory graphics package will be going back on. The only thing that I don't really care for is the off-center location of the sail panel birds. Anyone know why GM didn't center them on the panel like the 2nd Gens were?
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Old May 21, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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I couldn't decide which to put up, so I'll put them both up.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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and...

Edit: lol, I tried to change the second pic. Oh well, that one's good enough.

And white91formula, "Appearance and Detailing," "Favorite Firebird 2004" page 2, checkout Trans Am#5's solid white TA. Though it has very tiny TA decals, it still might give you an idea of how well white looks without "labels." It's a great-looking car!

But no matter what decision you make, it'll be the right one as long as it's based on what YOU want to do, not what others think.

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Old May 21, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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you are only wrong if you think you're wrong.

lol, thats deep huh?


all i mean is if you want them off, take em off. if it will bug you , leave them. I personally do not like debadged or decal delete cars. just not my thing. I have an IROC-Z, not an RS , not a Z28 and i want people to know that.
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Old May 22, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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I put the car back to a completely stock appearance cept for 96 T/A exhaust tips and a 84 T/A hood bulge screen... In my opinion, how GM should have decked the car out. The stock hidden turn downs and block off plate didn't do anything except leave the car incomplete... imo.
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Old May 23, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by steven90GTA
I would leave the decals on the car I like the way the Formula's look but there is one more thing I would have to change on the Formula's (87-90), it would be the bumbers with those stupid black things in the front and back, I never understood the point of those.
The day i bought my Formula i swore to swap different bumper covers on to get rid of those black things i never liked those. last spring i finally swapped 84 Firebird fornt and rear bumper covers on. I also haven't replced my decals and i was going to but it's grown on me to have them gone.


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