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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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I found a 88 Iroc Z with T-tops

The guy who has it is the 3rd owner, hes owned it for 7 years, and has only driven it a few thousand miles in the summer each year. Its been garaged in the winter. The owner is an older guy so it hasnt been beat to **** either.

Its got 113k miles, 305 TPI, 5spd pretty much stock. The paint isnt original, its starting to peel in a few places. On the hood it bubbled up and has some surface rust around the luevres (sorry for spelling) and has a little rust starting to form around the T-Tops. So it needs a paintjob. The interior is very good, the rugs are kinda dirty (as can be expected) but its power everything, everything works, all the gauges work, the AC Works, the dash has one tiny little crack but barely noticeable. The T-tops dont leak.

It has brand new Goodyear Eagles all the way around, new brakes, radiator and altenator. He has new shocks but didnt get them put in, but he will throw them in. The clutch is 6 years old, but probably around 30k miles so its getting close to due. Motor runs good, doesnt smoke.

The car is real clean. I have attached some pics. It also comes with the stock steering wheel, Kenwood CD Player and some other misc. stuff.

He wants 3300 for the car, is it worth it? The Body and undercarriage seem to be in really good shape (see the pics) so especially around here in NY it seems like its hard to find something thats worth the effort of rebuilding down the line.

Note the car also has aluminum driveshaft and posi-rear end. The seller originally wanted 3700 but I offered 3k, and he will go to 3300. Is it worth it?

Feedback would greatly be appreciated.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Its worh whatever your willing to pay for it. I personally would avoid the car altogether, since its a rusting re-paint I would think that if you got the car, your into more work than you expect. There are more than likely places that are not showing yet that will eventually.

Please note that a repaint is not necessarily "bad" My car was repainted in 1998, and wins car-shows, and shows no rust. However the reason for the repaint was due to fading, not to fix rust.

I would suspect that the car in question may have been painted to cover some rusty areas.

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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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Car: 1990 GTA
Engine: 5.7
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I can't tell by the pictures you posted, but look at the rear fender lips for rust bubbles in the paint.. (This is a common rust spot for 3rd gens) If there is rust there, then you might want to pass on the car.. If you don't fix it, it will just keep getting worse. The best fix in this case is new quarter panels.. The body work and paint will set you back be at least $1000 bucks.. Probably more...

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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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I took the pictures that I posted, so I saw the car in person. There is no rust forming in the area you outlined. There are a few spots where the paint is peeling, but no rust other than the hood.

I know going into it that I want to have a professional paint job done in the next year too. The second paint job was done 8-10 years ago, it was before the current owner purchased the car.

I just wanted to get a feel for whether the price was fair or not
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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If you take the $3300 and spend $2200 on a paint job, $150-250 for carpet, a few hundred for miscellaneous repairs and you'll have about $6000 into a car that has 113k miles, and will still require more $$. For $6k, you can find a car with original paint, no rust and a lot lower miles. I'd keep looking unless this is what you want.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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i agree with scottmoyer its 2 much to pay for a car in this condition,
but the good thing about it that its a manual which is not that easy to find,
if u could post thhe RPO codes we can see all options,

and check out camaros on ebay may be u will find one
u like.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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Edit to add RPO Codes

RPO Description Quantity Cost
1FP87 Camaro IROC-Z Sport Coupe, V8 24,050 $13,490.00
AG9 Power Seat, Driver Side 16,176
AU3 Power Door Locks 44,019 $145.00
A01 Tinted Glass, All Windows 91,069 $120.00
A31 Power Windows 60,622 $210.00
A90 Power Hatch Release 55,852
B34 Floor Mats, Front 56,174
B35 Floor Mats, Rear 56,168
B48 Luggage Compartment Trim 16,185 $164.00
B84 Moldings, Body Side 80,990 $60.00
CC1 Roof Panels, Removable Glass 41,005 $866.00
CD4 Windshield Wipers, Intermit 59,402
C49 Defogger, Rear Window 59,907 $145.00
C60 Air Conditioning 88,431 $775.00
C95 Dome and Reading Lamp 22,392
DG7 Mirrors, Electric Twin Remote 17,110
D42 Cover, Rear Comp. Cargo 27,337
D80 Spoiler 31,383
G80 Rear Axle, Limited Slip 28,358 $100.00
JG1 Aluminum P/SHaft N/A
K34 Speed Control, with Resume 56,692
K68 105 Amp Gen N/A
LB9 Engine, 305ci, 190hp, V8 12,620 $745.00
N33 Tilt Steering Column 59,403
N64 Aluminum Spare N/A
N96 Wheels, Aluminum, 15in standard/16in optional 21,803 $468.00
QDZ Tires, P245/50R16 Blackwall 21,803
TR9 Lighting, Auxiallry 35,844
TT4 Headlamps, Halogen (4) 26,885
UA1 Battery, Heavy Duty 15,608 $26.00
UX1 Radio,Stereo,Cassette,Clock, s/s,eq 19,017

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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Ive been looking for awhile, was about to buy one from ebay in PA and it turned out to be quite different than the auction led me to believe...

It seems that 3rd gens that are worthwhile in the Northeast are few and far between.
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 05:05 AM
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Axle/Gears: 373's in T/A .. vette unknown
what kind of steering wheel is that ?????
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Car: 1990 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 TBI (L03)
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Axle/Gears: 2.73 Open (GU2)
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what kind of steering wheel is that ?????
Looks like the ones off of the Cavalier Z24, The Lumina Z34, or the Lumina APV.
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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I have no idea, but I do like it.
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